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Was Moscow Car-bomb Staged?

Was Moscow Car-bomb Staged?

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@no1marauder said
Russia hasn't annexed the areas where the assassinations occurred yet
And? Russia is actively trying to annex the Donbas regions, and has already annexed Crimea.

Your ego makes this too easy.

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@no1marauder said
I'm sure MB can inform us of the "coverup" after September 11, 2001 where Islamist extremists were unjustly accused of blowing up buildings in the US just like they were unjustly accused by the Russians of blowing up buildings in that country.

Your "proof" gets lamer by the post. Trying to bootstrap an unlikely conspiracy theory by using another unlikely conspiracy theory is a desperation tactic.
A government run by a dictator rejects an investigation into crimes by that dictator, and two people investigating that crime are assassinated. Keep in mind that even you conceded Putin is known for assassinating people.

That's a logical basis for an argument.

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@vivify said
And? Russia is actively trying to annex the Donbas regions, and has already annexed Crimea.

Your ego makes this too easy.
It means your attempt to make me some sort of apologist for the Russian invasion because I use proper terminology under international law is an epic, probably dishonest, fail.

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@vivify said
A government run by a dictator rejects an investigation into crimes by that dictator, and two people investigating that crime are assassinated. Keep in mind that even you conceded Putin is known for assassinating people.

That's a logical basis for an argument.
Well, they had stopped "investigating" long before that and the "commission" was created by a government critic and had no legal status.

Granted, the two you mentioned were probably assassinated but their claims regarding the bombings had been public knowledge in Russia for years.

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But to be a nice guy, let me concede for the sake of argument that Putin had some motive for the apartment bombings in 1999 i.e. it increased his political power greatly (he was Prime Minister, not President, at the time) and led to greater support for military operations against the Chechens.

What is his motive for blowing up a strong supporter of his war in the Ukraine again?

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@no1marauder said
I use proper terminology
Your own link refuted you. Give it up.

your attempt to make me some sort of apologist for the Russian invasion

If you're aware of the difference between "annex" and occupy" yet chose to refer to Russia's annexation as an "occupying force", that means either you're ignorant of the definition or dishonest.

So I apologize for implying you were watering down Russia's actions. Based on your posts you were simply ignorant and made a mistake.

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@vivify said
Your own link refuted you. Give it up.

your attempt to make me some sort of apologist for the Russian invasion

If you're aware of the difference between "annex" and occupy" yet chose to refer to Russia's annexation as an "occupying force", that means either you're ignorant of the definition or dishonest.

So I apologize for implying you were watering down Russia's actions. Based on your posts you were simply ignorant and made a mistake.
This is what I mean by your "hold your breath until you turn blue" type of argumentation.

You are simply wrong; Russian forces are occupiers according to the international law treaties I have cited. I have no idea how you could possibly conclude otherwise; certainly you've cited nothing to support your clearly erroneous claims.

Maybe you should talk to the President of the Ukraine:

"Armed Forces of Ukraine, our people prove to occupiers every day that they have no chance to stay safe on Ukrainian land –"

address of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

https://www.president.gov.ua/en

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From Human Rights Watch:

"Irrespective of any self-proclaimed label, under international law, including the Geneva Conventions, Russian troops in Ukraine are an occupying force. The situation in eastern Ukraine, if Russian troops formally enter the territory, would fall within the meaning of occupation in the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, as discussed below. Neither sovereignty claims by local “authorities” in the self-proclaimed “LNR” or “DNR”, nor their recognition as independent by the Russian government, affects the applicability of the international law of occupation."

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/23/russia-ukraine-international-law-occupation-armed-conflict-and-human-rights

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@vivify said
Putin is a known murderer of dissidents. He is also known for false flag attacks.

Given Russia not long ago fabricated an assassination plot, are you saying that it is beyond a murderous dictator to kill one of his own for political gain? Keep in mind it was the daughter of his ally that was killed, not the man Putin was more directly connected to.
The USA is known for assassinating dissidents. The USA is also known for false flag attacks.

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@metal-brain said
The USA is known for assassinating dissidents. The USA is also known for false flag attacks.
By this logic, Russia and the US should be the best of buddies. Given Putin Russia’s stance on LGBTQI rights and abortion and given the way the GOP is courting the Christian Nationalist vote, maybe the best outcome for all is a United White States of the North. The Donald and Vlad can arm wrestle for top dog position….

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