Who owns Gaza?

@rajk999 said
Al Jazeera ... Lol .

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/study-1948-israeli-massacre-tantura-palestinian-village-mass-graves-car-park

The Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/nakba-day-gaza-protests-palestinians-israel-killed-violence-latest-a8352081.html

The United Nations:
https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/

Fox News:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/background-of-palestinian-nakba

Take your pick.

@vivify said
The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/study-1948-israeli-massacre-tantura-palestinian-village-mass-graves-car-park

The Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/nakba-day-gaza-protests-palestinians-israel-killed-violence-latest-a8352081.html

The United Nations:
https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/

Fox News:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/background-of-palestinian-nakba

Take your pick.

Yes its a war. Both sides have killed civilians.

@vivify said
The only answer to the conflict is a one-state solution where Palestinians are guaranteed equal rights with Israelis and a temporary form of affirmative action lasting at least ten years.

I think two states is better but the West Bank needs to be part of Israel and Ashdod and Ashkelon part of Philistine.

@rajk999 said
It's kinda like you supporting BLM because you are black and blaming father absence on white privilege, ... lol.

Plenty of Blacks are fatherless because their fathers were killed by the police

@rajk999 said
Yes its a war. Both sides have killed civilians.

But only one side forced people from their homes and moved in.

Guess which side that is.

@athousandyoung said
I think two states is better but the West Bank needs to be part of Israel and Ashdod and Ashkelon part of Philistine.

The reason why there hasn't been a two state solutions is because over fighting of land and holy sites. A single state would eliminate any reason for disagreements.

It would also make both safer since Arab nations would be less inclined to attack a nation with fully recognized Palestinian citizens.

@vivify said
But only one side forced people from their homes and moved in.

Guess which side that is.

Only one side strapped bombs to their chests and detonated it in crowded restaurants, malls and buses with kids. Only one side killed Olympic sportsmen in Munich. Only one side hijacked a planeload of Jews to Entebbe aiirport and the IDF had go rescue them.

One side is a bunch of stupid killers who lack common decency and diplomacy. All they know is hate and death. And more death is coming to them.

@athousandyoung said
Plenty of Blacks are fatherless because their fathers were killed by the police

What absolute rubbish. The black fathers have many women with children. They do not know, neither do they care about family life. They breed many women creating several single parent homes none of which they can maintain.

@athousandyoung said
I think two states is better but the West Bank needs to be part of Israel and Ashdod and Ashkelon part of Philistine.

Two states is unworkable. Palestininians want one state and they want the Jew out of Palestine.

@rajk999 said
Only one side strapped bombs to their chests and detonated it in crowded restaurants, malls and buses with kids. Only one side killed Olympic sportsmen in Munich. Only one side hijacked a planeload of Jews to Entebbe aiirport and the IDF had go rescue them.

One side is a bunch of stupid killers who lack common decency and diplomacy. All they know is hate and death. And more death is coming to them.

Israel massacred countless children, and entire villages....and not in self defense.

You obviously didn't read the links.

@vivify said
Israel massacred countless children, and entire villages....and not in self defense.

You obviously didn't read the links.

I dont read links neither do I expect people to read mine. I provide a summary of links and also post the link in case you want to read more. This is not a classroom where you are educating me.

Palestinians are no different. What is different is that one group because of their superior conduct and diplomacy, they are able to gather support from powerful nations around the world.

The other group are just a bunch of brainless jihadists who are obsessed with killing everyone.

@vivify said
The reason why there hasn't been a two state solutions is because over fighting of land and holy sites. A single state would eliminate any reason for disagreements.

It would also make both safer since Arab nations would be less inclined to attack a nation with fully recognized Palestinian citizens.

No it wouldn't. Jews would be at the complete mercy of an overwhelmingly dominant Arab majority. A single German state didn't eliminate disagreements between the Germans and the Jews. It led to the gas chambers. A single Rwandan state didn't eliminate disagreements between Hutus and Tutsis. It led to machete wielding mobs cutting down the minority Tutsis.

The two state solution the UN suggested was completely unrealistic with strange indefensible borders and ancestral lands of both people in the wrong hands.

Ethnic nationalism is a very real and in fact dominant phenomenon in the world. Irish nationalists, Chinese nationalists, Japanese nationalists, Mexican nationalists, Mongolian nationalists, German, French, Nigerians, Turks, Egyptians etc all have their own countries.

So do Arabs.

@rajk999 said
Two states is unworkable. Palestininians want one state and they want the Jew out of Palestine.

Israelis committing genocide is also unworkable.

@rajk999 said
Two states is unworkable. Palestininians want one state and they want the Jew out of Palestine.

It was Israel's unwillingness to accept a 2 state solution that led to Israel funding Hamas and to the problem Israel has right now. Israel created their own problem by creating the Hamas we know today. Avoiding a 2 state solution is why Hamas is a problem for Israel.

Israel supported Hamas to marginalize the PLO. You are also spreading misinformation based on the older outdated position of Hamas. Hamas is open, at least in principle, to accepting the 1967 borders of a Palestinian state—a major sticking point in previous failed negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. Its previous position had always been to call for the destruction of the state of Israel.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2017/05/hamas-strategic-rebranding.html

@athousandyoung said
Israelis committing genocide is also unworkable.

Genocide is just your opinion. What the Jews are doing does not qualify as genocide. That kind of talk is just irrational emotional ranting college leftists engage in. Palestinians have stated clearly via the Hamas charter and in other ways that they do not want Jews in their land. Free Palestine from the river to the sea means there are no Jewish goverhment and no 2-state solution.