@athousandyoung said[i From the river to the sea .. [/i], has it roots in the Hamas charter. Its a call to eradicate the Jews from the land of Palestine.
Yes of course the Anti-Defamation League is going to say that. They are a Jewish organization. The Turks say the Armenian genocide isn't a genocide too. Modern day neo-Nazis say the Holocaust wasn't genocide.
In any case Israel never said they wanted to take over all the land from the river to the sea. That's what YOU said.
@rajk999 saidBUMP
Hamas is dead. Lets not talk about them. The future is a single state from the river the to sea controlled by Israel.
Your above comment is not about what Hamas believes. Yes, Hamas is threatening genocide. I agree. But they aren't succeeding.
YOU claim Israel wants the same thing and will succeed at it.
@athousandyoung saidBoth sides of this conflict have holy books which state that the Holy Land was given to the Jews. So I would imagine the Jews know this and this is what they are working to acheive.
BUMP
Your above comment is not about what Hamas believes. Yes, Hamas is threatening genocide. I agree. But they aren't succeeding.
YOU claim Israel wants the same thing and will succeed at it.
@rajk999 saidThen you imagine Israel wants genocide.
Both sides of this conflict have holy books which state that the Holy Land was given to the Jews. So I would imagine the Jews know this and this is what they are working to acheive.
This is what the Jews were promised:
https://tinyurl.com/5f8jjwa6
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/ab/09/51ab0922392b82f87052fd5de49c5b63.jpg
Notice Gaza, Ashdod and Ashkelon are not on the map.
17 Nov 23
@ponderable saidwhat elections?
In fact that "Who owns Gaza" is not easy to answer:
Froma a legal point of view it belongs to the Palestine Authority. However since 2007 it belongs de facto to Hamas, which doesn not accept the Authority.
Today it is at least partly occupied by Israeli Forces.
Maybe it should belong to the pople living there. Their will is unclear, but Hamas has won the last elections (or so it is said).
@athousandyoung saidyour statement is a complete lie, Israel does not want genocide
BUMP
Your above comment is not about what Hamas believes. Yes, Hamas is threatening genocide. I agree. But they aren't succeeding.
YOU claim Israel wants the same thing and will succeed at it.
@athousandyoung saidNever said anything about the Jews wanting genocide. I dont think that is what they are after. If that was their aim then they have the firepower to achieve that, but obviously they are not using all their capability.
Then you imagine Israel wants genocide.
This is what the Jews were promised:
https://tinyurl.com/5f8jjwa6
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/ab/09/51ab0922392b82f87052fd5de49c5b63.jpg
Notice Gaza, Ashdod and Ashkelon are not on the map.
@athousandyoung saidSo you're saying that a one-state solution would be bad...because Jewish lives would be endangered by Arab citizens? Do you believe they'd plot a coup and take over Israel?
7 million Jewish Israelis
2 million Arab Israelis
5 million Palestinians
ALL surrounding nations are hostile Arab nations
The surrounding nations are no significant danger to Israel; see: Six Day War. They're also allies with the U.S. and they now have nukes.
@vivify saidThe Six Day war was won by a Jewish controlled Israel not a one state entity with half the politicians being Arab.
So you're saying that a one-state solution would be bad...because Jewish lives would be endangered by Arab citizens? Do you believe they'd plot a coup and take over Israel?
The surrounding nations are no significant danger to Israel; see: Six Day War. They're also allies with the U.S. and they now have nukes.
@rajk999 saidYou said the Israeli Jews want to control all the land from the river to the sea. That requires genocide.
Never said anything about the Jews wanting genocide. I dont think that is what they are after. If that was their aim then they have the firepower to achieve that, but obviously they are not using all their capability.
@athousandyoung saidDon't you think Israel becoming half Arab would make the other Arab states less inclined to attack? Most of the hatred from the Arab world is because of their treatment of Palestinians.
The Six Day war was won by a Jewish controlled Israel not a one state entity with half the politicians being Arab.
Giving Palestinians equal treatment under the law (along with affirmative action) would give the Arab world no reason to hate Israel.
@vivify saidThe Arabs are angry that the land and buildings were taken by Israelis. Many of them also want an Islamic country. Notice Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Morocco, etc are all Islamic Arab states. Neighboring nations could send mass immigrants into Israel/Palestine and half the time the politicians would sympathetic. You think the USA has an immigration problem? Imagine the USA was already half Hispanic AND there was mass immigration.
Don't you think Israel becoming half Arab would make the other Arab states less inclined to attack? Most of the hatred from the Arab world is because of their treatment of Palestinians.
Giving Palestinians equal treatment under the law (along with affirmative action) would give the Arab world no reason to hate Israel.
@rajk999 saidHamas is not dead.
Hamas is dead. Lets not talk about them. The future is a single state from the river the to sea controlled by Israel.
Are their ghosts shooting off missiles?
18 Nov 23
@athousandyoung saidWrong. The Land of Palestine belongs to the Jews. Whether or not you believe that is irrelevant. That is the belief of the 2 parties fighting over that land. It is written in both the Torah and in the Quran. This is why there are many moderate muslims who do not support what Palestinians are doing. No genocide is required, just the realisaton on the part of Palistinians that they are a defeated people but can still live in Israel in peace under a Jewish government.
You said the Israeli Jews want to control all the land from the river to the sea. That requires genocide.
@metal-brain saidDead men walking. Israel is not going to stop until they have cleaned up Gaza.
Hamas is not dead.
Are their ghosts shooting off missiles?