30 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidI’ve noticed that all your political targets are Nazis. Can you name theses top Israelis and cite some Nazi quotes from them.
Top Israeli officials called the Jewish race a superior race. They sounded just like the Nazis did. I am not exaggerating either. Just like the Nazis.
What a silly thread as if every state, religion or political philosophy doesn’t contain some openly racist inhabitants or adherents
30 Oct 23
@metal-brain said“Territories it controls around the world” go on mb enlighten me
A Palestinian woman gets on an Israeli bus with her baby. The bus driver says: “Ugh, that’s the ugliest baby I’ve ever seen, even your babies are animals” The woman walks to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: “That driver just insulted me!” The man says: “You go up there and tell him off. Go on, I’ll hold your monkey for you.”
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https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-steps-its-war-mixed-marriages/25051
Electronicintifada.net 😂😂 I see you’ve found another non partisan source of information
30 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidAre you suggesting that zionism isn’t a racist doctrine then?
I’ve noticed that all your political targets are Nazis. Can you name theses top Israelis and cite some Nazi quotes from them.
What a silly thread as if every state, religion or political philosophy doesn’t contain some openly racist inhabitants or adherents
30 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidZionism is we need an organized state that can fight attempts to exterminate us. That's it. We're done relying on European sympathy to save our existence.
Are you suggesting that zionism isn’t a racist doctrine then?
If you consider that racist, then sorry, not sorry. We don't have the luxury of playacting your fairy tales about human nature.
30 Oct 23
@sh76 saidYeah... that's not the definition of zionism though, is it?
Zionism is we need an organized state that can fight attempts to exterminate us. That's it. We're done relying on European sympathy to save our existence.
If you consider that racist, then sorry, not sorry. We don't have the luxury of playacting your fairy tales about human nature.
Is it nationalist? Yes.
Does it support ethnic cleansing? Yes.
Does it propose a homeland for one group of people? Yes.
You call it what you want, it's racist.
@shavixmir saidYes, it's nationalist and yes it's a homeland for Jews. It does not support "ethnic cleansing." That is a malicious falsehood. One in 5 Israeli citizens are Arabs and they have full and equal rights (unlike the Jews who were forced out of Arab countries).
Yeah... that's not the definition of zionism though, is it?
Is it nationalist? Yes.
Does it support ethnic cleansing? Yes.
Does it propose a homeland for one group of people? Yes.
You call it what you want, it's racist.
Setting up a haven for Jews who don't want to be massacred is not "racist" in any sense of the word except in a Utopian "we all love each other" fantasy world.
You want racism? Look at Hamas official documents calling the Jews the "descendants of apes and pigs" and "The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, 'O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
Now THAT's racism.
30 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidYes Zionism is defacto a movement created with the goal of the Jewish return to the land it deems to be Israel.
Are you suggesting that zionism isn’t a racist doctrine then?
Any racial type can be Jewish all you have to do is convert to Judaism. I believe that anyone born to a Jewish mother is considered to be Jewish regardless of the fathers racial heritage
It doesn’t sound intrinsically racist to me
30 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidOh, so all the Palistinians have to do is convert to Judaism and they’re all allowed to stay in Israel. And if they don’t, they are not.
Yes Zionism is defacto a movement created with the goal of the Jewish return to the land it deems to be Israel.
Any racial type can be Jewish all you have to do is convert to Judaism. I believe that anyone born to a Jewish mother is considered to be Jewish regardless of the fathers racial heritage
It doesn’t sound intrinsically racist to me
And that’s not racist?
Religionist / discrimantory / ethnic cleansic / take yer pick.
30 Oct 23
@sh76 saidThe zionists ethnically cleansed the Palestinians from their villages.
Yes, it's nationalist and yes it's a homeland for Jews. It does not support "ethnic cleansing." That is a malicious falsehood. One in 5 Israeli citizens are Arabs and they have full and equal rights (unlike the Jews who were forced out of Arab countries).
Setting up a haven for Jews who don't want to be massacred is not "racist" in any sense of the word except in a Utopian "w ...[text shortened]... ay, 'O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
Now THAT's racism.
And we’re not pn about Hamas, everybody knows they’re fanatical basterds. This a thread about zionists. Who are also fanatical miscreants of the worst kind.
@shavixmir saidThis is not just about Hamas, you dunce. This kind of terrorism has been ongoing since 1900 when the Jews started entering Palestine. Before Hamas there was PLO and all other previous groups in Palestine carried out terrorist bombings of civilians. Palestinieans do not engage the IDF, they engage innocent civilians. If there are no innocent Jews as they say, then there are no innocent Palestinians as well..
The zionists ethnically cleansed the Palestinians from their villages.
And we’re not pn about Hamas, everybody knows they’re fanatical basterds. This a thread about zionists. Who are also fanatical miscreants of the worst kind.
@rajk999 saidMy God, your knowledge of the situation and history is dismal. It’s totally pointless talking to you.
This is not just about Hamas, you dunce. This kind of terrorism has been ongoing since 1900 when the Jews started entering Palestine. Before Hamas there was PLO and all other previous groups in Palestine carried out terrorist bombings of civilians. Palestinieans do not engage the IDF, they engage innocent civilians. If there are no innocent Jews as they say, then there are no innocent Palestinians as well..
You continue to think in black & white / good & bad. You can’t see the shades of grey.
You don’t know the history. You’ve probably never heard of the Stern gang and the lot of them.
You don’t comprehend suffering, except on some narrow scale which suits your internal dialogue.
Grow up. It’s a big, and sometimes very bad, world. Where, just because one party are nasty racist crackers, doesn’t mean the other party isn’t just as bad.
Anyone who is fundamentalist is evil. And anyone who generalises all fundamentalists into a singular category is evil themselves.
Anybody wanting a homeland for one group of people and treating others like vermin, has serious issues.
And anyone displaying that behaviour has a history of violence and neglect which forces their hand.
Unless you can see the larger picture in this; ie, it’s inherently wrong what Hamas did and it’s inherently wrong what Israel is doing, you’re just a kid watching Star Wars: good vs bad… one has to be the good guy!
Grow up.
30 Oct 23
@sh76 saidSo Zionists move to Palestine to avoid being exterminated? LOL!
Zionism is we need an organized state that can fight attempts to exterminate us. That's it. We're done relying on European sympathy to save our existence.
If you consider that racist, then sorry, not sorry. We don't have the luxury of playacting your fairy tales about human nature.
Interesting how the stealing of land is not something you consider in your ethical judgement.
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods
These are Hebrew religious laws. Don't you see the contradictions?
Are Israeli Jews allowed to marry Palestinians?
30 Oct 23
@sh76 said"One in 5 Israeli citizens are Arabs and they have full and equal rights (unlike the Jews who were forced out of Arab countries). "
Yes, it's nationalist and yes it's a homeland for Jews. It does not support "ethnic cleansing." That is a malicious falsehood. One in 5 Israeli citizens are Arabs and they have full and equal rights (unlike the Jews who were forced out of Arab countries).
Setting up a haven for Jews who don't want to be massacred is not "racist" in any sense of the word except in a Utopian "w ...[text shortened]... ay, 'O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
Now THAT's racism.
That is not true. Not everything is equal. Their papers for example.
30 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidWhat are you talking about? What papers?
"One in 5 Israeli citizens are Arabs and they have full and equal rights (unlike the Jews who were forced out of Arab countries). "
That is not true. Not everything is equal. Their papers for example.