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Originally posted by divegeester
Your "friend" redbadger has confessed in the spirituality forum that he used to indulge in "gay-bashing". How does it feel to have a friend like this?

I make no moral judgements on my friends, their actions past or present are a reflection of them and Karma will repay them accordingly, it is thus out of my hands. I must say your tone strikes me as rather pharisaical and I suspect that you may also have condemned Jesus for hanging out with tax collectors and harlots,.

Originally posted by divegeester
Has re night Pm'd you about it!

No do you think he should? if you don't tell me I am going to ask him so its better you fess up now.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I make no moral judgements on my friends, their actions past or present are a reflection of them and Karma will repay them accordingly, it is thus out of my hands. I must say your tone strikes me as rather pharisaical and I suspect that you may also have condemned Jesus for hanging out with tax collectors and harlots,.

Let me explain my reason for focusing on this point Robert.

You often claim to be a "minister of of God" within the Jehovah's Witness organisation; a religion that you claim to be the sole holders of God's truth on earth. Here at RHP you seem to position yourself in a friendly alignment with many of the forum pariahs such as redbadger who has stated in the spirituality forum this weekend that he was a "gay basher" in the 1970's.

You have vociferously stood against all violence in the past, calling out and attacking those posters whom you feel do not share your views and fiercely arguing your point on many hypothetical violence scenarios. Your "friend" redbadger has claimed to be a "gay basher"; he makes this point in the spirituality forum - and yet you cannot bring yourself to condemn his actions because he is your "friend".

I find it interesting from a social/societal POV, that this display of unprincipled loyalty is reflected elsewhere in your organisation; for example the multiple occasions publicised in recent years when the JW leadership closes ranks and fails to offer up evidence to the authorities in order to protect a member accused of being child molester.

To be fair it is not just you in the spirituality forum who exhibits this unprincipled loyalty; most of the so-called Christians in there do the same thing for one reason or another. I find it to be one of the least appealing aspects of certain groups of religious people.

Originally posted by divegeester
Let me explain my reason for focusing on this point Robert.

You often claim to be a "minister of of God" within the Jehovah's Witness organisation; a religion that you claim to be the sole holders of God's truth on earth. Here at RHP you seem to position yourself in a friendly alignment with many of the forum pariahs such as redbadger who has stated i ...[text shortened]... other. I find it to be one of the least appealing aspects of certain groups of religious people.

You would have called Jesus out for hanging out with tax collectors and harlots you Pharisee! No more lectures please, your condemnatory approach of everyone and everything which does not make it past that narrow spectrum of hypocritical self righteousness that you display is abrasive to the ears.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You would have called Jesus out for hanging out with tax collectors and harlots you Pharisee!

Are you again comparing yourself and your actions to those of Jesus?

For someone claiming to be so knowledgable in biblical scripture it surprises me that you are unable to recall that Jesus condemned the sin, not the sinner. In the case of redbadger, you have repeatedly refused to condemn the sin.

Originally posted by divegeester
Let me explain my reason for focusing on this point Robert.

You often claim to be a "minister of of God" within the Jehovah's Witness organisation; a religion that you claim to be the sole holders of God's truth on earth. Here at RHP you seem to position yourself in a friendly alignment with many of the forum pariahs such as redbadger who has stated i ...[text shortened]... other. I find it to be one of the least appealing aspects of certain groups of religious people.

Where is your confession for treachery? who did you betray with a kiss? I am ready to hear your confession now.

Originally posted by divegeester
Are you again comparing yourself and your actions to those of Jesus?

For someone claiming to be so knowledgable in biblical scripture it surprises me that you are unable to recall that Jesus condemned the sin, not the sinner. In the case of redbadger, you have repeatedly refused to condemn the sin.

On the contrary i am comparing your self righteous condemnation of others with the exact same attitude that was displayed by Jesus enemies, you think about that you Pharisee.

Originally posted by divegeester
Are you again comparing yourself and your actions to those of Jesus?

For someone claiming to be so knowledgable in biblical scripture it surprises me that you are unable to recall that Jesus condemned the sin, not the sinner. In the case of redbadger, you have repeatedly refused to condemn the sin.

I seek to understand not condemn.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Where is your confession for treachery? who did you betray with a kiss? I am ready to hear your confession now.

I don't know what you are referring to and what has it got to do with you refusing to condemn gay bashing? Which is is the point in question.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I seek to understand not condemn.

Redbadger said he bashed gays. What more is there for you to "understand" in order to condemn that activity?

Originally posted by divegeester
I don't know what you are referring to and what has it got to do with you refusing to condemn gay bashing? Which is is the point in question.

no the point in question is who did you betray? Rednight said that you are known more for your treachery than your wit and i simply want to know who you betrayed and why, surely you know?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
On the contrary i am comparing your self righteous condemnation of others with the exact same attitude that was displayed by Jesus enemies, you think about that you Pharisee.

No you are not being "contrary", you are deflecting. Very different debating tactic. The former means putting a case contrary to the one given, the latter means posting something to misdirect the forum discussion away from the point in hand. The point in hand is you repeatedly refusing to condemn gay bashing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no the point in question is who did you betray? Rednight said that you are known more for your treachery than your wit and i simply want to know who you betrayed and why, surely you know?

Why are you so keen to discuss something trite which a notorious forum troll has said rather than the interesting topic of you refusing to condemn gay bashing?

Originally posted by divegeester
Redbadger said he bashed gays. What more is there for you to "understand" in order to condemn that activity?

why he did it, what motivated him, what his perceptions were, was he under peer pressure, was it simply boredom or some irrational hatred. There are so many things that you could understood and i refuse to adopt your condemnatory judgemental attitude until I understand why people act as they do. You might think of yourself as judge, jury and executioner but I don't and in fact i find your willingness to condemn others on the basis of little or no facts contemptible, you know absolutely nothing about what transpired and here you are your balloon like head blown up by its own pompousness attempting to get someone who is interested in understanding to condemn someone else on the basis of no factual evidence, you make me sick.

Originally posted by divegeester
Why are you so keen to discuss something trite which a notorious forum troll has said rather than the interesting topic of you refusing to condemn gay bashing?

I just wanna know who you betrayed and why you betrayed them, if you did actually betray anyone and as i have reiterated here and else where ad nauseam i don't know a single thing about what badger has allegedly done.