21 Sep 07
Originally posted by SunburntRed Night Seal of Approval
I think that any adult who realizes he is speaking to an underage kid(non-sting conversations) and that teenager begins to bring up sex, it's your responsibility to say something and exit the conversation. Not every kid is being monitored by a responsible adult, and you may have to fill in for one fleeting moment.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by Daemon SinWell if some serious offence is committed, any responsible ISP account holder would tell the parties involved who was using their connection. It is rare that the account holder wouldn't know who this is.
That just puts the Broadband account holder in the firing line. Quite a few people share internet connections.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWhen in doubt, rub one out.
Nah. I don't check for grass unless I'm certain she's old enough to have some.
I have a few rules.
21+ in general so that we can go to bars and stuff together. This also guarantees at least a basic level of maturity.
N/2 + 7 is another good rule.
30/2 + 7 = 22. That's about the same as 21.
I'd bone an 18-20 year old, but I'd want to check ID first. I wouldn't date a girl that young.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThere are no assumptions involved when you've written:
Did anything happen? No.
You're assuming things about what I would have done and judging me based on your assumptions. Your assumptions are wrong.
I've had enough sex that I can refuse it when I need to. Maybe you're different?
"Eventually after much persistance she was able to coax me to come see her after I was trashed, though even then I said I wasn't coming to have sex with her, though she had tempted my addled brain into thinking we were going to make out or something"
This is an admission that you were intent on visiting her, and had expectations of going to "make out".
Forgive me if I'm misjudging you, however on the basis of the above I think it's pretty clear cut why that is the case.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAbove and beyond any prudential reason you have for turning the down the offer of sex with a teenager, did your ethics (a) forbid you from doing something you wanted to do, or (b) prevent you from wanting to do that something in the first place?
Well that was the reason I said that. I didn't realize it was a sting until afterwards.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI find it odd you were willing to go and meet this [child]. Drunk or not, if it was a child. Still, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
If I had broken the law it would have been my fault due to my choice to be intoxicated without giving myself safeguards to make sure I was...well, safe.
However I was being entrapped. I repeatedly said no.
Entrapment? Not sure the true legal definition, but they need to be caught even if it is a trap. It more than the responsibility of a parent to protect their children. In my view it takes a village. And better yet, the world should make an effort as well. I think for the most part they try.
21 Sep 07
Will the last one out please turn off the Witch Hunt?
Damn.
Worse things than this happen every single day, sometimes possibly involving members of this site, and you people are coming down on ATY like this?
I see no laws being broken, nor was there a victim.
Meanwhile, thousands of women are being made victims in this country every day. I don't see any of you getting your undies in a knot over that. But you smelled blood in the water here with ATY, and had to jump on the big righteous bandwagon. But sitting here behind your computer berating ATY is way easier, isn't it? I guess it sure beats getting out and really getting involved with helping people who ARE victims.
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21 Sep 07
Originally posted by SuzianneSuzi, I think some of us here question his judgment, yes, because we watch the shows where it seems like "ordinary" guys by the dozens actually do break the law and claim they didn't know any better, were high, or "were not really going to do anything."
Will the last one out please turn off the Witch Hunt?
Damn.
Worse things than this happen every single day, sometimes possibly involving members of this site, and you people are coming down on ATY like this?
I see no laws being broken, nor was there a victim.
Meanwhile, thousands of women are being made victims in this country every day. I don' ...[text shortened]... sure beats getting out and really getting involved with helping people who ARE victims.
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On most occasions, I stay out of the witch hunts unless they are fun. In this case, I thought I'd throw my ten cents in.
21 Sep 07
Originally posted by SuzianneWhy are you calling a thought provoking discussion on the moral/ethical points around the situation described a witch hunt?
Will the last one out please turn off the Witch Hunt?
Damn.
Worse things than this happen every single day, sometimes possibly involving members of this site, and you people are coming down on ATY like this?
I see no laws being broken, nor was there a victim.
Meanwhile, thousands of women are being made victims in this country every day. I don' ...[text shortened]... sure beats getting out and really getting involved with helping people who ARE victims.
😞
I personally am trying to better understand how an intoxicated 30 yr old can think it is acceptable to accept an invite to visit a minor and "make out". I've scrambled my brains on many an occasion, and never come close to this.
As for the other injustices, fully agree. However, having spent the day at work, I'm not feeling up to hitting the streets and dishing out vigilante justice in my neighbourhood this evening. I'll try to atone tomorrow by helping an old lady to cross the road.
Seriously though, if you live anywhere like i do, and there's people being made victims - you leave well alone unless it's your job to deal with it, or they're family or very close friends. If you start interfering in what you see to be someone being victimised, you will quickly become victimised yourself. It's not a nice state of affairs, but it's what we're faced with today.