07 May 10
Originally posted by yo its meI don't disagree. Everything is balanced in the centre nowadays, which isn't a bad thing. As I said, I reserve my vote for if I see anything radical occuring that I may think would change the country for better or worse. A tactical vote against the BNP for example if I thought they had any chance of winning a seat in my constituency.
Maybe this is where democracy leads to; the extream views have been pushed to the side and mediocracy remains. Might not be too exciting, but it's not such a bad result.
Would you like more power at local level decisions?
I would like to see more power at an individual level such as referendums and ballots and such like. We were promised a referendum on Europe, never happened. We have been promised many other things that have never happened.
I just don't see the point on voting for parties' proposals that are only designed to win votes that never actually happen.
07 May 10
Originally posted by jimslyp69That makes sense. I think they do have some subtle differences that could mean big changes though. I voted for libdems becasue there was no candidate for the greens here and they have the closest policies. There's an extra reason for me to vote, people died so that I could, I know it was a long time ago but it still matters to me.
I don't disagree. Everything is balanced in the centre nowadays, which isn't a bad thing. As I said, I reserve my vote for if I see anything radical occuring that I may think would change the country for better or worse. A tactical vote against the BNP for example if I thought they had any chance of winning a seat in my constituency.
I would like to see ...[text shortened]... oting for parties' proposals that are only designed to win votes that never actually happen.
How can you know which policies are designed just to win votes? Ie: Greens are the most pro-gay party and they've won a seat in Brighton- I don't think that means they changed their policies to win votes, but some might.
07 May 10
Originally posted by yo its meI see it that peopl died to give me a choice of what I want to do. I think that includes abstaining. If I offered you a choice of five food items, none of which you liked, would you take one just for the sake of taking one?
That makes sense. I think they do have some subtle differences that could mean big changes though. I voted for libdems becasue there was no candidate for the greens here and they have the closest policies. There's an extra reason for me to vote, people died so that I could, I know it was a long time ago but it still matters to me.
How can you know which ...[text shortened]... Brighton- I don't think that means they changed their policies to win votes, but some might.
I don't know how you can tell other than it is the usual 'lower taxes, more spending on things that count, less waste', etc blah. , you just find out when the party is elected in and they go back on thier word.
Gordon Brown said that he would put serious measures into place in the next budget that would guarantee the economic stability of the country. I mean, for heavens sake, why didn't he do that last budget, or the one before that, or the one before. It's obviously just propaganda.
Nick Clegg said that he'd cut taxes, increase public spending and decrease the national debt. Is he a magician or something?
The Conservatives campaign just seemed to be, as per usual a smear campaign against the current Labour party. All very infantile and not much sunstance other than 'lower taxes blah de blah lets try and win back a few seats from disillusioned middle classes'.
I admire the green party's liberal views but am wary that they may not be cut out to run the country.
07 May 10
Originally posted by jimslyp69I mostly agree. I'm hopful that eventually we'll all go green and I think they'd be able to goven they have ideas on everything like any other party.
I see it that peopl died to give me a choice of what I want to do. I think that includes abstaining. If I offered you a choice of five food items, none of which you liked, would you take one just for the sake of taking one?
I don't know how you can tell other than it is the usual 'lower taxes, more spending on things that count, less waste', etc blah. , ...[text shortened]... reen party's liberal views but am wary that they may not be cut out to run the country.
07 May 10
Originally posted by jimslyp69Then spoil your ballot in protest. Not voting is suggesting you're not concerned enough with how crap things are that you're happy to let it slide without protest. In the current world, voting is about the last, most important thing you can do to have your opinion counted. Abstaining is self-imposed silence and if it matters to you that people died to give you a vote, don't let that be for nothing.
I see it that peopl died to give me a choice of what I want to do. I think that includes abstaining. If I offered you a choice of five food items, none of which you liked, would you take one just for the sake of taking one?
I don't know how you can tell other than it is the usual 'lower taxes, more spending on things that count, less waste', etc blah. , ...[text shortened]... reen party's liberal views but am wary that they may not be cut out to run the country.
07 May 10
Originally posted by StarrmanYou've got your opinion, I've got mine. Whether I spoil my ballot paper (if there's any left), not bother even turning up, or have a northerner on No 10's front door step, it all means the same to me.
Then spoil your ballot in protest. Not voting is suggesting you're not concerned enough with how crap things are that you're happy to let it slide without protest. In the current world, voting is about the last, most important thing you can do to have your opinion counted. Abstaining is self-imposed silence and if it matters to you that people died to give you a vote, don't let that be for nothing.
You may value your opinion so much. I don't value mine that much. At the end of the day it's just my opinion. Just a drop in the ocean.
I try to make a diference by what I do in real life. With my friends, family or complete strangers. Through work, or doing something nice for someone I've never met before. That's what counts to me. You're entitled to your opinion of the General Election, but count me out please. It means little more to me than the General Forum.
08 May 10
I remember a few years back when i was on holiday, overhearing two Englishmen talking about any future election - One was a tory, one labour. The Tory guy said...."The reason i don't see Labour winning any election is that i just don't see England voting in a Jock". There was no reply from the Labour guy.
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08 May 10
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundSNP
I remember a few years back when i was on holiday, overhearing two Englishmen talking about any future election - One was a tory, one labour. The Tory guy said...."The reason i don't see Labour winning any election is that i just don't see England voting in a Jock". There was no reply from the Labour guy.
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08 May 10
Originally posted by StarrmanI agree. Political apathy is understandable to some extent, especially in the wake of the recent scandals but to help effect change you have to part of the democratic process.
Then spoil your ballot in protest. Not voting is suggesting you're not concerned enough with how crap things are that you're happy to let it slide without protest. In the current world, voting is about the last, most important thing you can do to have your opinion counted. Abstaining is self-imposed silence and if it matters to you that people died to give you a vote, don't let that be for nothing.
That said, I do think all ballot papers should have a "none of the above" option which should be counted and reported as part of the vote.
08 May 10
Originally posted by divegeestermonster raving loony party!
I agree. Political apathy is understandable to some extent, especially in the wake of the recent scandals but to help effect change you have to part of the democratic process.
That said, I do think all ballot papers should have a "none of the above" option which should be counted and reported as part of the vote.
This is a good idea, it might give the 'protest' votes to BNP a miss too.