@a-unique-nickname saidWhat other solutions are there for rudeness and overpopulation?
Anyone caught smoking in a no smoking zone will be killed.
Anyone cutting in line will be killed.
What other solutions are there for rudeness and over population?
Problems with "rudeness" lay at the doorstep of parents and their child-rearing skills.
Indonesia was heading for demographic disaster when its birth rate was 4.0 or 5.0 back in the 1950s and 1960s. It was brought under control by increasing the level of education its population had access to and through policies about family planning.
12 Feb 23
@fmf saidIt's perhaps gone a bit too far in the other direction now. Twenty or so years ago, the fertility rate was more or less the ideal replacement rate [2.2]. In the last decade or so it has slipped down to 1.6 or 1.7 or thereabouts which, if it persists, could spell trouble a few decades from now.
Indonesia was heading for demographic disaster when its birth rate was 4.0 or 5.0 back in the 1950s and 1960s. It was brought under control by increasing the level of education its population had access to and through policies about family planning.
12 Feb 23
@fmf saidIt's already manifesting itself in the health and housing systems of first-world countries, with long waiting lists and facilities closing for lack of staff.
It's perhaps gone a bit too far in the other direction now. Twenty or so years ago, the fertility rate was more or less the ideal replacement rate [2.2]. In the last decade or so it has slipped down to 1.6 or 1.7 or thereabouts which, if it persists, could spell trouble a few decades from now.
12 Feb 23
@kewpie saidOne solution to the problem of a declining population is immigration. But in places like Japan, that is a very difficult demographic change for them to come to terms with.
It's already manifesting itself in the health and housing systems of first-world countries, with long waiting lists and facilities closing for lack of staff.
12 Feb 23
@kewpie saidthey need housing and schools and hospitals for their kids, so it adds even more to the housing problem
Immigration brings more care workers, but they need housing and schools and hospitals for their kids, so it adds even more to the housing problem. We need to start applying our collective brains to the problem, just as we're starting to do with climate change.
"The housing problem" - as in a lack of affordable public housing, which, if supplied, would put downward pressure on the cost of houses generally - is a problem of the government's making - one that is caused by the agenda of their real masters... i.e. not the general population that needs housing and schools and hospitals for their kids.
The Thatcher government in the 80s allowed public housing renters to buy their houses [good idea] but then it didn't want to build any more public housing for ideological reasons [terrible decision]. Hence the UK has a housing crisis now [ever since, in fact]. The free market mechanism doesn't want to build the houses and schools that poor people need [or can afford].
Immigration brings more care workers
It brings in more taxpayers, more consumers, more economic activity, more prosperity... etc.
@fmf saidDamned dragons
There is an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation, early in series 1 if I recall correctly, that riffed on this idea of draconian punishment for minor infractions [in the episode it was stepping on the grass despite signs forbidding it] - but it wasn't a story about population control; it was instead a contemplation on inhumanity.
12 Feb 23
@a-unique-nickname saidYou are mistaken. The "sustainable way forward" is a population replacement rate of around 2.1 children per woman. A "low birth rate" will be the cause of essentially intractable economic problems in the future regardless of the size of a nation's population.
Yes, a low birth rate with a low population is the sustainable way forward.
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@fmf saidNo, i genuinely want to decrease the world's population, people are annoying and they destroy everything they touch.
Trev33/A Unique Nickname just wants some "edgy" piffle and banter about killing people for smoking in no-smoking zones and jumping queues.
Littering will also be added to the list.
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@fmf said2.1 is simply replacement, not a growing population. Once we get the population down to a more manageable number i completely agree 2.1 kids on average is the way forward. But to prevent issues from an aging population drastic action needs to be taken.
You are mistaken. The "sustainable way forward" is a population replacement rate of around 2.1 children per woman. A "low birth rate" will be the cause of essentially intractable economic problems in the future regardless of the size of a nation's population.