05 Jul 08
Originally posted by KorchAs I said, you're nitpicking. The import of the statements by those two is that almost all cheaters are rated above 2000. That is their opinion whether they have directly stated "almost all cheaters are rated above 2000" or not.
How it`s related with eldragonfly try to attribute his opponents with opinion they have never stated?
05 Jul 08
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Originally posted by KorchWrong again korch my boy. It's obvious that neither !Tony nor DragonFire understood this, but more to the point, you obviously don't understand it either or you wouldn't be making a truckload of idiotic statements to that effect.
I should disappoint you - this was well known also before you
05 Jul 08
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Originally posted by no1marauderI think you should know difference between "most" and "all".
As I said, you're nitpicking. The import of the statements by those two is that almost all cheaters are rated above 2000. That is their opinion whether they have directly stated "almost all cheaters are rated above 2000" or not.
And I would agree that most (but not all!) of cheats would have high rating if they will not be banned. I think you have looked at banned players list before it was removed.
But main import of their statements was importance of cheating for 2000+ players. It`s no doubt`s that players with higher rating has more affected by cheats as higher rated players tend to play with higher rated players. But in my opinion even if only 2000+ players would cheat then anyway it would affect lower rated players - for example there are clan leagues, there are tournaments with different rated players.
05 Jul 08
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Originally posted by eldragonflyIt`s obvious that you have invented bicycle and that you have no arguments to base your claims 🙂
Wrong again korch my boy. It's obvious that neither !Tony nor DragonFire understood this, but more to the point, you obviously don't understand it either or you wouldn't be making a truckload of idiotic statements to that effect.
05 Jul 08
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Originally posted by Korchand there it is again, the misbegotten notion that only higher rated players suffer from or are likely to encounter engine use and/or cheaters on this site. Please explain this to me korch my boy and provide some realworld proof or data to back up this unbelievable and completely absurd distortion.
It`s no doubt`s that players with higher rating has more affected by cheats as higher rated players tend to play with higher rated players.
05 Jul 08
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Originally posted by eldragonflyWhen you will learn to read kid? 🙂 I will quote myself from the post you have "quoted".
and there it is again, the misbegotten notion that only higher rated players suffer from or are likely to encounter engine use and/or cheaters on this site. Please explain this to me korch my boy and provide some realworld proof or data to back up this unbelievable and completely absurd distortion.
But in my opinion even if only 2000+ players would cheat then anyway it would affect lower rated players - for example there are clan leagues, there are tournaments with different rated players.
05 Jul 08
korch my boy the problem is on your end. These statements are contradictory, again it is sorely obvious that you lack even basic critical thinking skillz.
"It`s no doubt`s that players with higher rating has more affected by cheats as higher rated players tend to play with higher rated players."
"But in my opinion even if only 2000+ players would cheat then anyway it would affect lower rated players - for example there are clan leagues, there are tournaments with different rated players."
05 Jul 08
Originally posted by eldragonflyAs usually your logic has failed 🙂
korch my boy the problem is on your end. These statements are contradictory, again it is sorely obvious that you lack even basic critical thinking skillz.
"It`s no doubt`s that players with higher rating has more affected by cheats as higher rated players tend to play with higher rated players."
"But in my opinion even if only 2000+ players would ...[text shortened]... s - for example there are clan leagues, there are tournaments with different rated players."
if A (higher rated players) is more affected than B (lower rated players) it does not mean that B is not affected at all.
05 Jul 08
Originally posted by eldragonflyI have never said only players above 2000 cheat. It is possible for cheats to be at all levels but as a natural consequence of cheating (and presumably the point of it) is a rating rise it is an obvious inference that most cheats will eventually congregate at the higher levels.
korch my boy the problem is on your end. These statements are contradictory, again it is sorely obvious that you lack even basic critical thinking skillz.
"It`s no doubt`s that players with higher rating has more affected by cheats as higher rated players tend to play with higher rated players."
"But in my opinion even if only 2000+ players would ...[text shortened]... s - for example there are clan leagues, there are tournaments with different rated players."
As I have said before if someone is consistently rated 1500 and cheating they must be doing it pretty badly. Whilst it is not impossible they are looking at the odd move it is clearly having little, if any, impact on the result and, whilst wrong, is not a major issue for the majority of players.
I think the important thing in attempting to rid this site of cheaters is to focus on players rated above 2000 but that is not the same as saying there are no cheats below 2000.
So eldragonfly please stop quoting me out of context with your idiotic assumptions.
06 Jul 08
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Originally posted by Dragon FireThis is exactly what is nothing but conjecture, this is the very point you casually toss into the discussion, always without any proof, without any verification, this idea of natural consequence of engine use must always lead to a high rating.
I have never said [b]only players above 2000 cheat. It is possible for cheats to be at all levels but as a natural consequence of cheating (and presumably the point of it) is a rating rise it is an obvious inference that most cheats will eventually congregate at the higher levels.
As I have said before if someone is consistently rated 1500 and cheating they must be doing it pretty badly.[/b]
What is an idiotic assumption is your "foolproof" promotion of the hopelessly flawed idea that there aren't any below 2000 or is it 1500 that are using engines.