The 2008 World Chess Championship Match ...

ivanhoe

Only Chess

13 Oct 08

vipiu

Joined: 04 Jul 06
Moves: 7174

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by Korch
Looks like to be draw - Kramnik will be able to win exchange but that endgame seems to be drawish.

for me it seems a R+3 pawns versus R+2 pawns will be the ending which will be probably drawish, but black can press for win
after:
41...Rc2 Rxc2 pxc2 Bb3 Rxb3 Rxc2

now it is move 41 Rb2

in your line(probably Rc2 Rxb3 Bxb3 Rxc7 Bxe6) do you think white can hold this ending ?

schakuhr

Joined: 12 Feb 05
Moves: 47202

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by vipiu
for me it seems a R+3 pawns versus R+2 pawns will be the ending which will be probably drawish, but black can press for win
after:
41...Rc2 Rxc2 pxc2 Bb3 Rxb3 Rxc2

now it is move 41 Rb2

in your line(probably Rc2 Rxb3 Bxb3 Rxc7 Bxe6) do you think white can hold this ending ?

white can usually hold this when both players have a h-pawn so I think this is the easiest way to draw.

vipiu

Joined: 04 Jul 06
Moves: 7174

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by schakuhr
white can usually hold this when both players have a h-pawn so I think this is the easiest way to draw.

I have big doubts on this, but we'll probably see soon...

pimpsandwich

Joined: 11 Mar 07
Moves: 22852

26 Oct 08

Kramnik has spent a lot of time in the men's room.

irontigran

Joined: 26 Jun 06
Moves: 59283

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by pimpsandwich
Kramnik has spent a lot of time in the men's room.

is that happening again? all i see is the spiegel.com clocks are messed up a this point, they didnt reset for the online audience 😞

irontigran

Joined: 26 Jun 06
Moves: 59283

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by irontigran
is that happening again? all i see is the spiegel.com clocks are messed up a this point, they didnt reset for the online audience 😞

thanks, chesscube rocks! 🙂

raphael78

Joined: 26 Sep 06
Moves: 5102

26 Oct 08

Surely its a draw now.

vipiu

Joined: 04 Jul 06
Moves: 7174

26 Oct 08

I do not understand why Kramnik chose that line, at least in our previous lines he was able to press a bit for the win, this is clear draw...

irontigran

Joined: 26 Jun 06
Moves: 59283

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by vipiu
I do not understand why Kramnik chose that line, at least in our previous lines he was able to press a bit for the win, this is clear draw...

DRAW!

pimpsandwich

Joined: 11 Mar 07
Moves: 22852

26 Oct 08

Anand retains the championship.

Mad Rook

Joined: 19 Jun 06
Moves: 847

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by pimpsandwich
Anand retains the championship.

Not yet. Anand needs at least one more draw in the next three games to retain the title.

irontigran

Joined: 26 Jun 06
Moves: 59283

26 Oct 08

what does vishy do tomorrow? and does kramnik show some balls even though its over??

pimpsandwich

Joined: 11 Mar 07
Moves: 22852

26 Oct 08

I'm not sure, but congrats to Anand for being a fighter as champ and not drawing just for match conditions.

~~diskamyl~~

Joined: 29 Mar 07
Moves: 1260

26 Oct 08

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Originally posted by tomtom232
You should probably work on them 30 degree deflection tactics before you make comments like that.

no I don't have to. I never said I totally understand anything from the games. I certainly don't. I'm just not fond of people complaining about high level positional chess being boring. I at least know there is a very strong fight going on in every single game, no matter if they are not tactical or end up with a "dead" draw.

~~diskamyl~~

Joined: 29 Mar 07
Moves: 1260

26 Oct 08

Originally posted by pimpsandwich
I'm not sure, but congrats to Anand for being a fighter as champ and not drawing just for match conditions.

I would also like to congratulate kramnik to put up a good game involving a piece sacrifice in such hard psychological conditions.

I also think he put up a good fight in every game, aiming a win inspite of the stupid "boring drawnik going for draws all the time" comments.