Originally posted by David TebbNot sure you are referring to me, but I was just kidding around. I've seen plenty of good QP and QG games. In defense of exi though, d4 is generally regarded as positional while e4 is supposed to be tactical. Though many openings that start with 1.d4 can become sharp, like the Benko Gambit 😉.
... Also there's loads of sharp variations in the Modern Benoni, Benko Gambit, Dutch, Gruenfeld, Nimzo-Indian...
Some of the greatest attacking players of all time have been Queen's Pawn players, eg. Alekhine, Tal, Bronstein, Kasparov, Topalov, Shirov, Ivanchuk.
Although they usually also alternate with King's Pawn Openings.
Wihin any opening ...[text shortened]... either a King's Pawn player or a Queen's Pawn player, tells you nothing about their style.
But yes, I agree with you and Xanthos (assuming he was being sarcastic).
Originally posted by XanthosNZOf course not all, but most. At least from my experience. Surely there are tactical variations in the many d4 openings. However, such variations are not guranteed.(unless White is willing to lose the advantage) When playing e4, basically any opening becomes very tacitcal if you want it to be. Even the Caro-Kann can become a tactical paradise with the Panov-Botvinnik attack. For as long as I've played e4/d4 and against e4/d4, I've always found e4 more tactical and d4 more positional.
Yes of course, because all d4 games are closed and quiet.
In addition, I think it DOES say something about a player's style if d4 is played. From ym experience, d4 players are generally more positional. For example, there is an 1800+ player at my school who plays the French against e4 and starts with d4. I asked him why he plays those openings and he told me that he likes to play solid and positional chess. He said it's where he shines. I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that d4 players are usually more positional as are the openings.
Originally posted by exigentskyThat's just silly!
Of course not all, but most. At least from my experience. Surely there are tactical variations in the many d4 openings. However, such variations are not guranteed.(unless White is willing to lose the advantage) When playing e4, basically any opening becomes very tacitcal if you want it to be. Even the Caro-Kann can become a tactical paradise with the Pano ...[text shortened]... oing out on a limb to say that d4 players are usually more positional as are the openings.
Kasparov has played 1. d4 slightly more frequently than 1. e4.
How would you categorize his play?
Originally posted by dimis283The black player may not want this for a simple and obvious reason, black may (and actually probably does since it's his line) know more theory than white. At GM levels this isn't true, at sub 1800 levels I think it's definately true. Unless you mean white plays Qb8, your statement is pretty unclear.
There is is a good plan at yugoslav, lines with Qb8 so we leave much of theory.
Originally posted by cmsMasterAgreed, I find that I know much more about Dragon lines that white, at against the people that I play against. I just play the best moves. ..Qb8 is one of those lines that Dragon players tried for a while to try to get something different and avoid everything else.
The black player may not want this for a simple and obvious reason, black may (and actually probably does since it's his line) know more theory than white. At GM levels this isn't true, at sub 1800 levels I think it's definately true. Unless you mean white plays Qb8, your statement is pretty unclear.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!I'm trying to work on my Yugoslav, once I get used to the lines I'll be able to play sharp exciting, and sometimes risky games. This is what I had been looking for when I chose the Sicilian, and I figure that if I make the dragon my main variation simple practice with it will lead me to superior understanding of Yugoslav theory. In fact, I'm going to check out that Dragon theme tournament right now 😉.
Agreed, I find that I know much more about Dragon lines that white, at against the people that I play against. I just play the best moves. ..Qb8 is one of those lines that Dragon players tried for a while to try to get something different and avoid everything else.
Originally posted by cmsMasterWelcome to the club dude. 🙂 You're sick in the head too. 😀
I'm trying to work on my Yugoslav, once I get used to the lines I'll be able to play sharp exciting, and sometimes risky games. This is what I had been looking for when I chose the Sicilian, and I figure that if I make the dragon my main variation simple practice with it will lead me to superior understanding of Yugoslav theory. In fact, I'm going to check out that Dragon theme tournament right now 😉.
Originally posted by Red NightIt's not silly at all and correlates very well with my experience. Furthermore, Kasparov is not a d4 player based on my definition. I was referring to players that play d4 90%+ of the time. Thus, the Kasparov example would really not work here.
That's just silly!
Kasparov has played 1. d4 slightly more frequently than 1. e4.
How would you categorize his play?
Originally posted by cmsMasterIt was just for a previous post claiming that player had problem with big theory of Yugoslav.
The black player may not want this for a simple and obvious reason, black may (and actually probably does since it's his line) know more theory than white. At GM levels this isn't true, at sub 1800 levels I think it's definately true. Unless you mean white plays Qb8, your statement is pretty unclear.
Anyway as I saw 10. ...Qb8 (and not Rc8-Ne5 etc) as I remember of Yugoslav is good for black anyway.
Originally posted by cmsMasterWhere is the Dragon Themed tournament?
I'm trying to work on my Yugoslav, once I get used to the lines I'll be able to play sharp exciting, and sometimes risky games. This is what I had been looking for when I chose the Sicilian, and I figure that if I make the dragon my main variation simple practice with it will lead me to superior understanding of Yugoslav theory. In fact, I'm going to check out that Dragon theme tournament right now 😉.
Originally posted by Red NightTournament 958
Where is the Dragon Themed tournament?
Started in January 🙁
http://www.redhotpawn.com/tournament/view.php?tid=958
Originally posted by cmsMasterThat sounds like fun! Sorry that I missed it.
Tournament 958
Started in January 🙁
http://www.redhotpawn.com/tournament/view.php?tid=958