A question of honesty

Originally posted by josephw
"Scathing bashing of a fellow Christian".

You're referring to the geester. Right? Have you confronted divegeester for his scathing bashing?

I thought not!

galveston75's outburst directed at divegeester on page 8 of this thread.

Originally posted by FMF
galveston75's outburst directed at divegeester on page 8 of this thread.

It is interesting to note that I get abused for challenging Christians on their belief of eternal suffering and yet RJHinds and Galveston75 can make most vicious attack on me accusing me of the most vile things one Christian can say to another, accusing me of being equal to satan and deserving of burning in hell...etc. And not one single Christian here lifts a finger in my defence.

Originally posted by divegeester
It is interesting to note that I get abused for challenging Christians on their belief of eternal suffering and yet RJHinds and Galveston75 can make most vicious attack on me accusing me of the most vile things one Christian can say to another, accusing me of being equal to satan and deserving of burning in hell...etc. And not one single Christian here lifts a finger in my defence.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 1)
Spirituality
"Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after." -Russ As well as off topic personal attacks on those whose beliefs, knowledge and skills contrast with my own and trigger my displeasure. Leave it in God's hands.
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Consider the source as you would with advice from an established attorney, diagnosis by an internist or risk assessment from a well credentialed surgeon: off the cuff opinions, vague speculations, emotional rants spoken without any basis of authority ignore. Only absolute authority is the inspired, infallible Word of God. Rest easy. Moment you believe in the person and work of Jesus Christ you're sealed as a member of His Royal Family for eternity. Leave the attacks in God's omnipotent hands.

Originally posted by divegeester
It is interesting to note that I get abused for challenging Christians on their belief of eternal suffering and yet RJHinds and Galveston75 can make most vicious attack on me accusing me of the most vile things one Christian can say to another, accusing me of being equal to satan and deserving of burning in hell...etc. And not one single Christian here lifts a finger in my defence.

Two possibilities:

Believers in eternal damnation tend to be more strident and outspoken about it than are disbelievers in it who tend more to lurk than to spout off.

and/or

All the Christians here agree with them about you.

Originally posted by JS357
Two possibilities:

Believers in eternal damnation tend to be more strident and outspoken about it than are disbelievers in it who tend more to lurk than to spout off.

and/or

All the Christians here agree with them about you.

Three: A few contributors to this forum exact a pound of flesh at every turn because flesh is what trolls enjoy feeding on.

Originally posted by JS357
Two possibilities:

Believers in eternal damnation tend to be more strident and outspoken about it than are disbelievers in it who tend more to lurk than to spout off.

and/or

All the Christians here agree with them about you.

I don't think it's a question of personal doctrine, it's more reflective of partisan cowardice.

Originally posted by divegeester
I don't think it's a question of personal doctrine, it's more reflective of partisan cowardice.

If so, they're more to be pitied than given an ounce of attention or scorned.

Originally posted by FMF
I cannot concur on this characterisation of his posting. He is a critic of the Trinity theology. He is a critic of the torture theology. And he is a critic of certain aspects of your organisation's policies and behaviour. That's about it. I don't see him telling people that they are wrong "in every discussion every time, every day". That strikes me as an inaccurate portrait of his forum presence.

Expressing ones concern for something is one thing. We all do it. It's how it's done is what seperates one from another...

Jesus rarely used a stern voice but almost always used love with his answers.
Why was that? It was to draw ones in even those who would not listen.

Perhaps as I said dive dude could try another approach with others to avoid this subject at a latter time. ( If he really cares as a Christian should. )



Anyway I've posted many subjects as this in the past and as usual dive dude shoots it down time after time. Why is that? What upsets him so much about something good for all of us?

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102000130?q=life+in+paradise&p=par

Originally posted by josephw
Too bad that I fall short with some that call themselves Christians, not only them but all that post in this forum. Working on it! I get embarrassed with myself sometimes. This place drives me crazy. But I was already crazy when I got here. 😉

Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

2 Tim ...[text shortened]... ns 4:5
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord [is] at hand.

Christian's creed.

We all "fall short", which is why we have 1John 1:9; in that passage the word "confess" means to state or name the sin.

Originally posted by galveston75
Expressing ones concern for something is one thing. We all do it. It's how it's done is what seperates one from another...

Jesus rarely used a stern voice but almost always used love with his answers.
Why was that? It was to draw ones in even those who would not listen.

Perhaps as I said dive dude could try another approach with others to avoid t ...[text shortened]... ng good for all of us?

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102000130?q=life+in+paradise&p=par

You could try not accusing me of being equal to satan or of being an antichrist just because I disagree with you. Do you ever stop to think how infantile, bizarre and actually downright nasty that is?

PS I guess you are "back" after all...

Originally posted by divegeester
You could try not accusing me of being equal to satan or of being an antichrist just because I disagree with you. Do you ever stop to think how infantile, bizarre and actually downright nasty that is?

PS I guess you are "back" after all...

"Antichrist". The Greek term has a twofold meaning. It refers to that which is anti, or opposed to, Christ. It may also refer to a false Christ, one in the place of Christ. All people, organizations, or groups that falsely claim to represent Christ or claim to be the Messiah or that oppose Christ and his disciples can properly be called antichrists.—1Jo 2:22.

1) So why would I have called you this in reguards to the organization I am a part of and how you not only view us but actually condemn us for from time after time here on this forum?

2) What do you do as Jesus said for his followers to do in all the nations according to his words in Matt?

3) Do you promote those commands or do you condemn them?

Three simple questions. Please number your answers.

Originally posted by galveston75
"Antichrist". The Greek term has a twofold meaning. It refers to that which is anti, or opposed to, Christ. It may also refer to a false Christ, one in the place of Christ. All people, organizations, or groups that falsely claim to represent Christ or claim to be the Messiah or that oppose Christ and his disciples can properly be called antichrists.—1Jo ...[text shortened]... e those commands or do you condemn them?

Three simple questions. Please number your answers.

Responses to your questions/comments:

1) it is not my fault that your membership of your religious movement clouds your judgement. You need to recognise that it is not acceptable to accuse non members or people who criticise you with being in cohorts with the Devil. It really doesn't do you any favours.

2) as I've said more times than I care to remember, what I do in my private life is of no concern of yours. Even if I did absolutely nothing that you would recognise as being a valid "work", it would still not justify you calling me or anyone else an antichrist.

3) What I do or do not do in my private life is no business of yours. What I do or do not promote in no way justifies you abusing me with the horrible insults you employ.

Originally posted by divegeester
[b]I don't think it's a question of personal doctrine, it's more reflective of
Sorry Ignore this reply.

Sorry I screwed this reply up.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby to Galveston75
I note with interest the reference to Galveston Texas in your site profile. The origin of your nickname I imagine.

Well done Sherlock!

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Three: A few contributors to this forum exact a pound of flesh at every turn because flesh is what trolls enjoy feeding on.

divegeester complains that he gets abused for challenging Christians on eternal suffering and RJHinds and galveston75 make vicious attacks on him. He asks why not one single Christian here lifts a finger in his defence. JS357 suggests two possibilities: that believers in eternal damnation are more strident than disbelievers in it, and/or all the Christians here agree with divegeester's attackers. You suggest a third possibility: that the Christians making vicious attacks on divegeester are "trolls". So, do you suspect that RJHinds and galveston75 are Christian "trolls"?