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A question of honesty

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Grampy Bobby
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Originally posted by galveston75
My favorite was Sept. Most of the crazyness of tourist were gone and the beach was all mine!!!!! 🙂

Are you still in Houston?

The first few days of rain are ok but after a few months, nope!
GV (Galveston/Vancouver), six years in Houston; then career relocations to suburbs of Denver and Sacramento when our employer was headquartered in Bend, Oregon. A few years after my wife departed this life returned to the east coast. -GB

galveston75
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
GV (Galveston/Vancouver), six years in Houston; then career relocations to suburbs of Denver and Sacramento when our employer was headquartered in Bend, Oregon. A few years after my wife departed this life returned to the east coast. -GB
Wow small world. We lived in Bend from 00' to 08' and my parents and sister are still there. Beautiful place but too cold during the winter and the junipers were killing us.
Sorry to hear about your wife.......

galveston75
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Originally posted by RJHinds
I went down the steps to the beach at Galveston when I visited my cousins as a young teenager when they lived there in the 1950s. But that was before I learned to swim.
Yeah we move there one year before hurricane Carla. Still can remember that....

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Originally posted by FMF
You are not abusing him "in any way"? Perhaps you need to take some personal responsibility for the words you post on this forum. You are claiming you did not abuse him "in any way"? And yet here is some of what you wrote in your post directed at divegeester:

[b]Yeah before you slithered in and ruined it this forum was interesting ... you have taken over the ...[text shortened]... h tiny little opinions. You are nothing more then a god hater knowing his days are numbered.
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Hummmm. I think theres a lot of truth there.

galveston75
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Originally posted by divegeester
What you object to Galveston75, is me criticising your organisations beliefs and behaviours, such as the doctrine forbidding blood transfusions and the recent child abuse scandals.

You also object to to calling you out on your dishonest and abusive forum behaviour. Calling people "antichrist" and "as bad as satan" is not good forum etiquette, nor is i ...[text shortened]... to expand your corporations membership), is in some way representative of spreading the gospel.
Yeah your probably right on the first part. I do get upset when I know what it is and you are seriously misguided or you are just oblivious to the good we do and of our stand in upholding the truths in the Bible and willing to stand up to the bibles standards even in the face of ones like yourself.

And yes I feel you have anti christ motives as you continually condemn us for doing only as Jesus commanded us. I've learned over the decades that ones who do not do as Jesus said, in all things, feel guilty about their lack of doing them and turn on ones who do.

Lol. Memberships huh? Your really exposing the lack of wisdom you have about the WTS.

Well you are who you are and lets leave it at that.

RJHinds
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Originally posted by galveston75
Yeah we move there one year before hurricane Carla. Still can remember that....
I remember Hurricane Carla was pretty bad. My Aunt, uncle, and two cousins came up to East Texas to stay with us to avoid it. It changed the weather drastically in East Texas and I blame it for our fig tree never producing any more figs after that time.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well you are who you are and lets leave it at that.
No, let's not.

divegeester
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Originally posted by galveston75
And yes I feel you have anti christ motives as you continually condemn us for doing only as Jesus commanded us.
I never "condemn" you nor anyone else.

I criticise your religious organisation because you promote dangerous doctrines, practice antisocial bullying when people leave your organisation and meanwhile set yourselves up as being the sole holders of God's truth on earth. Believing this stuff makes you behave in this nasty way to me - calling me "like satan" and "anti-Christ" among other things. I don't accept your claim that you do "what Christ commanded".

We have differing opinions; when you accept that this is normal in life and in spirituality and that you don't need to demonise me, we may be able to have a conversation.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Hummmm. I think theres a lot of truth there.
There's no truth in your claim that you did not abuse him "in any way".

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Originally posted by divegeester
I never "condemn" you nor anyone else.

I criticise your religious organisation because you promote dangerous doctrines, practice antisocial bullying when people leave your organisation and meanwhile set yourselves up as being the sole holders of God's truth on earth. Believing this stuff makes you behave in this nasty way to me - calling me "like sata ...[text shortened]... d in spirituality and that you don't need to demonise me, we may be able to have a conversation.
Really? Lol. You've never had a normal conversation with anyone here so why would it start now?
And oh my I never knew there were different opinions. I learned me something new today!!!

As I said lets let it be. I've said my peice so continue on as usual.

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Originally posted by galveston75 to divegeester
Really? Lol. You've never had a normal conversation with anyone here so why would it start now?
divgeester has had countless hundreds of normal conversations with people here in this community. There have only been one or two posters who have done stuff like claim he's "as dangerous as Satan", you being one of them. To say he has "never had a normal conversation with anyone here" is not true. You seem to rely heavily on saying untrue things in your efforts to express your bitter personal dislike for him.

Does his refusal to accept the theology of the Trinity and his refusal to accept the theology of "eternal torture" rub you up the wrong way for some reason? These two issues that sometimes cause a bit of lively debate between divegeester and proponents of those two bits of theology. Does his 'opposition' to them offend you in some way?

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divegeester: Can you please explain why you think I should be burnt alive for all eternity?

Originally posted by RJHinds
First, you are a sinner. And second, you don't believe in eternal torment.
Do you think posters like Suzianne and CalJust and Checkbaiter, who do not believe in eternal torture either, should also be burnt alive for all eternity?

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you think posters like Suzianne and CalJust and Checkbaiter, who do not believe in eternal torture either, should also be burnt alive for all eternity?
For one thing the imagery makes no sense. In the medieval era fire was seen as purifying, hence the Roman Catholic notion of purgatory where the imperfect would be purified before going into the presence of God. So the concept of eternal hell fire makes little sense as it would imply purification without end - if the stain cannot be removed what is the point of the process?

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Originally posted by DeepThought
For one thing the imagery makes no sense. In the medieval era fire was seen as purifying, hence the Roman Catholic notion of purgatory where the imperfect would be purified before going into the presence of God. So the concept of eternal hell fire makes little sense as it would imply purification without end - if the stain cannot be removed what is the point of the process?
The way sonship tells it, it's simply incoherent. He has to take words like "justice", "glory" and "righteous" and turn them completely upside down to pass off what is surely the darkest and most morally depraved tale of unhinged cruelty and senseless revenge [regardless of the fact that it is merely a figment of sonship's imagination] as somehow being "perfect justice". Furthermore, it is an act of supposedly "perfect morality" from which mankind can take absolutely no exemplary lesson in terms of his own moral behaviour. It makes no sense on many levels,

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Originally posted by galveston75
Really? Lol. You've never had a normal conversation with anyone here so why would it start now?
And oh my I never knew there were different opinions. I learned me something new today!!!

As I said lets let it be. I've said my peice so continue on as usual.
Leaving aside the ridiculous comment that I've "never had a normal conversation with anyone here", which incidentally you know to be incorrect and is yet another example of you being dishonest again, let's consider your incredulousness about my challenge to you that you struggle with people having differing opinions from you.

Can you therefore please demonstrate with specific evidence from my posts, why you feel it is justified to accuse me of being "like satan" and an "antichrist"? I.e. What I say that is not "difference of opinion" which warrants you calling another Christian these horrible things.

To use such language against another human being you must have a plethora of examples which go beyond the "difference of opinion" you say you are so comfortable with.

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