Originally posted by divegeesterWhether I agree or disagree with him or you or any other believer in Christ on this forum or elsewhere is inconsequential. What matters on Tuesday, November 18, 2014, or tomorrow or next week or next month or a year from now is the truth revealed in God's Word. Some will become serious students of its content of commands, promises, doctrinal principles, rationales and applications. Others will kiss it off as unimportant and in doing so live out their conflicted days in confusion.
Do you agree with RJHinds that I deserve to be burnt in hell for eternity because I reject the doctrine of eternal suffering?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt's important to me and interesting for others to know if you agree with him or not. It's not a matter of consequences a, it's a matter of integrity and standing up for you moral compas and the veracity of scripture.
Whether I agree or disagree with him or you or any other believer in Christ on this forum or elsewhere is inconsequential. What matters on Tuesday, November 18, 2014, or tomorrow or next week or next month or a year from now is the truth revealed in God's Word. Some will become serious students of its content of commands, promises, doctrinal principles, ...[text shortened]... ers will kiss it off as unimportant and in doing so live out their conflicted days in confusion.
Originally posted by divegeesterdive, the Great White Throne Judgment will be covered in "God's Person..." in conjunction with God's attributes in due time:
It's important to me and interesting for others to know if you agree with him or not. It's not a matter of consequences a, it's a matter of integrity and standing up for you moral compas and the veracity of scripture.
"10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:10-15 (New American Standard Bible)... Please note that the two books opened make no mention of sin.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOK, I shall assume your lack of forthrightness reflects your agreement with RJHinds.
dive, the Great White Throne Judgment will be covered in "God's Person..." in conjunction with God's attributes in due time:
"10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne a ...[text shortened]... 5 (New American Standard Bible)... Please note that the two books opened make no mention of sin.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI guess it could have recovered in time since we moved from there a couple years later and I joined the US Army in september 1964. But after a couple of year in which it did not produce figs as I expected, I came to that conclusion for I was never able to pick figs off of that tree again.
It's still alive, but not produced figs since 1961? Normally trees recover after traumas. So I find that surprising, they rely on a specific type of wasp to reproduce so I suspect it may be something to do with that. Possibly the wasps didn't survive the change in the weather, alternatively were new insecticides introduced around the time?
Originally posted by divegeesterIn my opinion all people can reject any teaching in the Holy Bible they wish, but if they wish to escape eternal punishment they must repent and believe in Jesus as their savior.
you say I deserve to be burn in hell for eternity because i reject the doctrine of eternal punishment which you claim is taught by Jesus.
Does this follow for all people who reject any teachings in the Bible, or just specific ones? If so can you give some instruction on which ones please?
Originally posted by divegeesterNo tricks from me.
Bump for Galveston.
Up to your old tricks so soon eh...
Perhaps if all of us including yourself, remembered such scriptures as this, our conversations would be more civil?
Are you willing to try?
Galatians 5:22-23New International Version (NIV)
22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law".
So if someone here says to drop a subject that they are done with or a subject you don't accept their answer and see the need to continue on and on and on about and they say that's enough....you'll let it go? Right?
Originally posted by RJHindsSo you are saying that any rejection of what you see as established doctrine is worthy of eternal burning?
In my opinion all people can reject any teaching in the Holy Bible they wish, but if they wish to escape eternal punishment they must repent and believe in Jesus as their savior.
Originally posted by galveston75I responded to your post and asked you this:
No tricks from me.
Perhaps if all of us including yourself, remembered such scriptures as this, our conversations would be more civil?
Are you willing to try?
Galatians 5:22-23New International Version (NIV)
22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. A ...[text shortened]... the need to contiue on and on and on about and they say that's enough....you'll let it go? Hum?
Can you therefore please demonstrate with specific evidence from my posts, why you feel it is justified to accuse me of being "like satan" and an "antichrist"? I.e. What I say that is not "difference of opinion" which warrants you calling another Christian these horrible things.
You are free to continue to avoid providing this evidence. This is the "tricks" I'm referring to; you make vile accusations but seem to lack the intellectual capacity to back them up.
Welcome back.
Originally posted by galveston75Do you think the abuse you threw at me earlier this thread is representative of this scripture you are quoting?
Galatians 5:22-23New International Version (NIV)
22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law".
Originally posted by divegeesterDid you clearly miss the fact I pointed out that "it was in my opinion" that I used those words in describing my opinion of you? Do you understand what an opinion is?
I responded to your post and asked you this:
[b]Can you therefore please demonstrate with specific evidence from my posts, why you feel it is justified to accuse me of being "like satan" and an "antichrist"? I.e. What I say that is not "difference of opinion" which warrants you calling another Christian these horrible things.
You are free to c ...[text shortened]... e vile accusations but seem to lack the intellectual capacity to back them up.
Welcome back.[/b]
Perhaps your friend FMF can explain it to you?