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divegeester
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Originally posted by FMF
Do you think posters like Suzianne and CalJust and Checkbaiter, who do not believe in eternal torture either, should also be burnt alive for all eternity?
You are addressing this to RJHinds I take it?

He must do because his rational was that I deserved to go to hell and be burnt for all eternity because I refuse his instruction on the words of Jesus which he claimed supported the vile doctrine of eternal suffering.

This is a new one to me because it means that my disbelief in that doctrine overrides the atoning work of Christ at Calvary.

I didn't see one Christian stepping in to defend me or at the very least defend the veracity of sound Christian doctrine on this matter.

I must be truly hated by the (alleged) Christians here.

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Originally posted by DeepThought
For one thing the imagery makes no sense. In the medieval era fire was seen as purifying, hence the Roman Catholic notion of purgatory where the imperfect would be purified before going into the presence of God. So the concept of eternal hell fire makes little sense as it would imply purification without end - if the stain cannot be removed what is the point of the process?
The point of the process is punishment. Eternal punishment in the writhing agony of hell fire.

Rjhinds so wedded to this doctrine that he would prefer to see me burn in eternity than admit that the doctrine is pointless, vile, and brings the gospel into disrepute.

I find it extrordinary that a fellow Christian feels I should burn in hell for rejecting this doctrine.

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Originally posted by divegeester
You are addressing this to RJHinds I take it?
Yes, he said that you deserve to be tortured in burning agony because you are a sinner and because you don't believe in eternal torment.

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Originally posted by divegeester
The point of the process is punishment. Eternal punishment in the writhing agony of hell fire.

Rjhinds so wedded to this doctrine that he would prefer to see me burn in eternity than admit that the doctrine is pointless, vile, and brings the gospel into disrepute.

I find it extrordinary that a fellow Christian feels I should burn in hell for rejecting this doctrine.
All believers in the person and work of Jesus Christ will reside in heaven with Him for eternity. Those who have grown in grace by learning the absolute truths revealed in the Word of God will be given rewards for glorifying Him in time. Period.

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Originally posted by divegeester
You are addressing this to RJHinds I take it?

He must do because his rational was that I deserved to go to hell and be burnt for all eternity because I refuse his instruction on the words of Jesus which he claimed supported the vile doctrine of eternal suffering.

This is a new one to me because it means that my disbelief in that doctrine override ...[text shortened]... d Christian doctrine on this matter.

I must be truly hated by the (alleged) Christians here.
I don't hate you, in fact I try not to hate at all.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
All believers in the person and work of Jesus Christ will reside in heaven with Him for eternity. Those who have grown in grace by learning the absolute truths revealed in the Word of God will be given rewards for glorifying Him in time. Period.
And the rest deserve to be tortured according to the moral perspectives you believe your God figure has imbued you with?

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Originally posted by FMF
And the rest deserve to be tortured according to the moral perspectives you believe your God figure has imbued you with?
It is not known by being imbued with any moral perspectives, but it is understood by reading the clear words of holy scripture. 😏

HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I remember Hurricane Carla was pretty bad. My Aunt, uncle, and two cousins came up to East Texas to stay with us to avoid it. It changed the weather drastically in East Texas and I blame it for our fig tree never producing any more figs after that time.
Yeah Carla had more then the normal amount of tornadoes...

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Originally posted by galveston75
Yeah Carla had more then the normal amount of tornadoes...
Do you think the notion of there being torture in burning agony for eternity "is understood by reading the clear words of holy scripture"?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Yeah Carla had more then the normal amount of tornadoes...
do you think I should burn in hell for rejecting the doctrine of eternal punishment?

What about for being "like Satan" or an "anti-Christ" as you accused me of being - do you think I should be burned for eternity for those crimes?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I remember Hurricane Carla was pretty bad. My Aunt, uncle, and two cousins came up to East Texas to stay with us to avoid it. It changed the weather drastically in East Texas and I blame it for our fig tree never producing any more figs after that time.
It's still alive, but not produced figs since 1961? Normally trees recover after traumas. So I find that surprising, they rely on a specific type of wasp to reproduce so I suspect it may be something to do with that. Possibly the wasps didn't survive the change in the weather, alternatively were new insecticides introduced around the time?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It is not known by being imbued with any moral perspectives, but it is understood by reading the clear words of holy scripture. 😏

HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
you say I deserve to be burn in hell for eternity because i reject the doctrine of eternal punishment which you claim is taught by Jesus.

Does this follow for all people who reject any teachings in the Bible, or just specific ones? If so can you give some instruction on which ones please?

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
All believers in the person and work of Jesus Christ will reside in heaven with Him for eternity. Those who have grown in grace by learning the absolute truths revealed in the Word of God will be given rewards for glorifying Him in time. Period.
Do you agree with RJHinds that I deserve to be burnt in hell for eternity because I reject the doctrine of eternal suffering?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Leaving aside the ridiculous comment that I've "never had a normal conversation with anyone here", which incidentally you know to be incorrect and is yet another example of you being dishonest again, let's consider your incredulousness about my challenge to you that you struggle with people having differing opinions from you.

Can you therefore pleas ...[text shortened]... ora of examples which go beyond the "difference of opinion" you say you are so comfortable with.
Bump for Galveston.

Up to your old tricks so soon eh...

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