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A question of honesty

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divegeester
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
You'd be wise to drop your penchant for intruding personalities for the purpose of attack. Focus objectively on God's Word.
Do you agree with RJHinds that I deserve to burn in hell for not accepting the doctrine of eternal suffering?

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Originally posted by divegeester
It's fine if you don't want to answer; I just keep asking as you keep posting irrelevancies. All is good.
With biblical truth, context and frame of reference matter. Seriously doubt there's any way you'll understand the answer to your concerns about the eternal destiny of unbelievers in Christ and until you grasp the attributes and character of God.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Do you agree with RJHinds that I deserve to burn in hell for not accepting the doctrine of eternal suffering?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 23)
Originally posted by divegeester in reply to DeepThought
The point of the process is punishment. Eternal punishment in the writhing agony of hell fire.

Rjhinds so wedded to this doctrine that he would prefer to see me burn in eternity than admit that the doctrine is pointless, vile, and brings the gospel into disrepute.

I find it extrordinary that a fellow Christian feels I should burn in hell for rejecting this doctrine.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 20)
All believers in the person and work of Jesus Christ will reside in heaven with Him for eternity. Those who have grown in grace by learning the absolute truths revealed in the Word of God will be given rewards for glorifying Him in time. Period.

Originally posted by divegeester
"I'm coming to a realisation that most of my Christian colleagues here in this forum believe I should be burnt in hell for not believing in eternal suffering, you included..."

dive, this persecution rant isn't even tangentially in line with the Word of God: Christians will reside in heaven for eternity.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
You'd be wise to drop your penchant for intruding personalities for the purpose of attack. Focus objectively on God's Word.
Perhaps you should start yet another one of your threads where you attack the personalities of the people that disagree with you and whom you dislike?

divegeester
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 23)
Originally posted by divegeester in reply to DeepThought
The point of the process is punishment. Eternal punishment in the writhing agony of hell fire.

Rjhinds so wedded to this doctrine that he would prefer to see me burn in eternity than admit that the doctrine is pointless, vile, and bri ...[text shortened]... tangentially in line with the Word of God: Christians will reside in heaven for eternity.
You obviously find this attention you are getting arousing in some way. I'm mildly disappointed that you can't even stand up to RJHinds, but nothing here really surprises me lately.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
With biblical truth, context and frame of reference matter. Seriously doubt there's any way you'll understand the answer to your concerns about the eternal destiny of unbelievers in Christ and until you grasp the attributes and character of God.
I have no concerns; are you deliberately trying to appear a bit dense for some reason? You're the one who believes everyone in this forum who doesn't agree with you will be burnt alive for all eternity. You should be concerned about these poor wretches.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
With biblical truth, context and frame of reference matter. Seriously doubt there's any way you'll understand the answer to your concerns about the eternal destiny of unbelievers in Christ and until you grasp the attributes and character of God.
Do you think RJHinds is wrong to claim that divegeester deserves to be tortured for eternity? What do you make of RJHinds' take on "the truth"? Are you scared he will turn on you if you make an unequivocal statement about him being wrong?

galveston75
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You seem very unhappy dive dude. Perhaps this will help:

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2001161?q=happiness&p=par

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Originally posted by galveston75
You seem very unhappy dive dude.
It's odd that you should say this. It is you ~ with your sick parents and recovering wife ~ that popped up suddenly and heaped the most extraordinarily visceral personal abuse on a fellow Christian. It is you who has been coming across as very unhappy. I'd gauge divegeester's mood a mixture of bafflement and exasperation, not unhappiness. Perhaps it is the personal problems you are having, and the health issues faced by members of your family, that explain your behaviour, but it does not appear appropriate for you ~ of all people ~ to be commenting on the happiness of someone you are subjecting to personal abuse in public.

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Originally posted by galveston75
You seem very unhappy dive dude.
Thank you so much for your kind expression of heartfelt and honest concern. The milk of human kindness, the spirit of the love of Christ that flows from your comments to me throughout this thread would be an honour to you if your leadership could see them. You truly are a credit to your religious order, your family and friends.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I have no concerns; are you deliberately trying to appear a bit dense for some reason? You're the one who believes everyone in this forum who doesn't agree with you will be burnt alive for all eternity. You should be concerned about these poor wretches.
Principles: 1) Whatever you hear or see in print, consider the source. There are then three options: maturity responds or remains silent; immaturity which is hypersensitive to its own wishes and needs and insensitive to those of others reacts. 2) Whether it's from a parent or friend, physician or attorney, judge or the Word of God inconvenient truth stings: understand it in context and accept it or retreat into denial. 3) We adjust to the justice of God or the justice of God adjusts to us.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Principles: 1) Whatever you hear or see in print, consider the source. There are then three options: maturity responds or remains silent; immaturity which is hypersensitive to its own wishes and needs and insensitive to those of others reacts. 2) Whether it's from a parent or friend, physician or attorney, judge or the Word of God inconvenient truth sti ...[text shortened]... or retreat into denial. 3) We adjust to the justice of God or the justice of God adjusts to us.
This tripe does not make sense on any level; religious, spiritual or grammatical!

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
This tripe does not make sense on any level; religious, spiritual or grammatical!
It makes sense as an example of both "being craven" and "being puffed up with vanity" at the same time. Interesting balancing act.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Principles: 1) Whatever you hear or see in print, consider the source. There are then three options: maturity responds or remains silent; immaturity which is hypersensitive to its own wishes and needs and insensitive to those of others reacts. 2) Whether it's from a parent or friend, physician or attorney, judge or the Word of God inconvenient truth sti ...[text shortened]... or retreat into denial. 3) We adjust to the justice of God or the justice of God adjusts to us.
I have no idea what you are on about.

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Originally posted by FMF
It's odd that you should say this. It is you ~ with your sick parents and recovering wife ~ that popped up suddenly and heaped the most extraordinarily visceral personal abuse on a fellow Christian. It is you who has been coming across as very unhappy. I'd gauge divegeester's mood a mixture of bafflement and exasperation, not unhappiness. Perhaps it is the perso ...[text shortened]... e ~ to be commenting on the happiness of someone you are subjecting to personal abuse in public.
Humm, nope I'm actually very happy with my life. I have a great wife, great kids and grandkids. A good job and to be a part of God's organization makes life great.
Yes my parents are not doing well and that is very sadening as it should be and one that all would agree with should be stressful and sad.
So nope all is well here.....

But from dive dudes constant daily, weekly and monthly comments not just to me but to most here at RHP, other then to yourself,it is not a happy thing to read indeed. I truly feel sorry for him and hope he can find happiness thru scripture and to no longer find the need to bring anyone down. Perhaps some day he can find an elightning scripture to share with us all and make or days brighter. That's all. 🙂

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