A question of honesty

Originally posted by galveston75
I truly feel sorry for him and hope he can find happiness thru scripture and to no longer find the need to bring anyone down.

Is that why you apparently chose to try to "bring him down" by delivering some of the crudest and most vehement personal abuse that has been seen on this forum for many a while?

Originally posted by galveston75
Yes my parents are not doing well and that is very sadening as it should be and one that all would agree with should be stressful and sad.

Are you citing this as an excuse for your behaviour?

Originally posted by FMF
Are you citing this as an excuse for your behaviour?

Nope....

Originally posted by divegeester
Oh hello lemon lime, have you seen the playground fight and feel courageous enough to join in too? Bless.

How many threads have you started just to complain about hell?

Originally posted by galveston75
Nope....

Then how do you explain the personal abuse you have been dishing out? What you said to divegeester on page 8 is clearly far, far nastier and much more gratuitously unkind and scathing than anything he has ever said to you, by a long shot. Why do you think you have licence to do this?

Originally posted by lemon lime
How many threads have you started just to complain about hell?

Do you agree with RJHinds that divegeester deserves to be burnt in hell for eternity because he rejects the doctrine of eternal suffering?

Originally posted by FMF
Do you agree with RJHinds that divegeester deserves to be burnt in hell for eternity because he rejects the doctrine of eternal suffering?

I just now started reading this thread so I don't know yet what RJ (actually) said. But I don't think not believing in hell or the lake of fire is enough to cause anyone to go there. And I don't think belonging to any particular denomination is enough to get anyone into or keep anyone out of heaven.

What I do believe is that God is able to look beneath surface differences and see what is important to him. He will be judging me according to his standards, not your standards or divegeesters or mine. Jesus said there will be some surprised people on Judgement day... some will surprised they didn't make the cut, and others will be surprised they did.

Originally posted by lemon lime
...I don't think belonging to any particular denomination is enough to get anyone into or keep anyone out of heaven.

This is despite your reservations about ~ for example ~ Catholics' beliefs and/or practices?

Originally posted by FMF
This is despite your reservations about ~ for example ~ Catholics' beliefs and/or practices?

There are Catholics who will be there, and Catholics who won't. But it won't be because they are Catholic or because they aren't.

Let me put it to you this way, no one in heaven is going to want to listen to anyone moaning and groaning and singing their little "Somebody Done me Wrong" songs for all of eternity. That kind of crap belongs in hell, not in heaven.

Originally posted by lemon lime
There are Catholics who will be there, and Catholics who won't. But it won't be because they are Catholic or because they aren't.

Does the same go for Mormons?

Originally posted by lemon lime
Let me put it to you this way, no one in heaven is going to want to listen to anyone moaning and groaning and singing their little "Somebody Done me Wrong" songs for all of eternity. That kind of crap belongs in hell, not in heaven.

How do you imagine people in "heaven" will feel about beloved spouses, children, other relatives and close friends being subjected to torture in burning agony for eternity? Would you imagine it would taint the joy of reaching and being in "heaven"?

Originally posted by FMF
How do you imagine people in "heaven" will feel about beloved spouses, children, other relatives and close friends being subjected to torture in burning agony for eternity? Would you imagine it would taint the joy of reaching and being in "heaven"?

I imagine people in heaven won't be subjected to inflammatory questions.

If you recall (or ever knew) what the Bible says about this, then you should already know they won't be tormented by anything. And that includes the sort of torment you seem to think they would suffer in heaven.

Originally posted by FMF
Does the same go for Mormons?

Do you really need to ask? Slow down and think about it for a moment.

Originally posted by lemon lime
Do you really need to ask? Slow down and think about it for a moment.

I am interested in hearing what you believe. I have met both Christians who do and those who don't consider Mormons to be fellow Christians.

Originally posted by lemon lime
I imagine people in heaven won't be subjected to inflammatory questions.

Well sidestep the question by all means. It's OK. That people in "heaven" might be unaffected by the knowledge that a beloved spouse or child might (meanwhile) be being tortured forever in "hell" strikes a false note in terms of compassion and in terms of morality. It's a question about a detail that points to incoherency and even fabrication: i.e it does not seem to ring true. But you can dodge the question by labelling it "inflammatory" if you feel the need to.