Abiogenesis

@kellyjay said
He has given us the choice, the universe speaks volumes but many refuse to acknowledge Him, all who do will be without excuse.

The universe surely "speaks volumes" to any and all religionists who believe in a creator God and not just people who happen to be members of your religion.

@fmf said
You keep talking to me as if I am somehow [in fact] a Christian who believes this religious stuff that you are saying.

I talking to you as a person nothing else.

@fmf said
Don't you claim to be a Christian too?

Yes

@kellyjay said
I talking to you as a person nothing else.

You don't seem to realize that I am not a Christian anymore. You don't seem to realize that I am an atheist. These two shortcomings/misperceptions would suggest that you are involved in ears-down head-back duckspeak, and nothing else, rather than 'talking to a person'.

@kellyjay said
Yes

I'll take you at your word then. Am I the only atheist/ex-Christian you have ever talked to?

@fmf said
The universe surely "speaks volumes" to any and all religionists who believe in a creator God and not just people who happen to be members of your religion.

There are a lot of messages, voices in the world. As I pointed out to you it is only when our judgements agree with reality is there truth. THEE God is truth, all others that denounce or reject Him do not have a sure foundation. These other faiths may have nuggets of truth in them, making them deadly to put our faith in, causing us to accept lies.

@kellyjay said
There are a lot of messages, voices in the world. As I pointed out to you it is only when our judgements agree with reality is there truth.

"Agree" with your opinions, you mean? You dodged Wolfgang59's comment about this on page 9. Do you not recognize the circular logic that you are employing?

@kellyjay said
These other faiths may have nuggets of truth in them, making them deadly to put our faith in, causing us to accept lies.

"Lies"?

@kellyjay said
He has given us the choice, the universe speaks volumes but many refuse to acknowledge Him, all who do will be without excuse.

How does "the universe" "speak volumes" that show that Muhammed in the cave with Gabriel is not true while the dream/vision that gave rise to the Book of Revelation is somehow true?

@fmf said
How does "the universe" "speak volumes" that show that Muhammed in the cave with Gabriel is not true while the dream/vision that gave rise to the Book of Revelation is somehow true?

Simple logic: two condradictory statements can’t both be true. E.g either Jesus died on the cross or he didn’t. Wake up and smell the roses.

@fmf said
"Agree" with your opinions, you mean? You dodged Wolfgang59's comment about this on page 9. Do you not recognize the circular logic that you are employing?

I don’t claim to be flawless in either logic or reasoning. My words if they don’t line up to reality suffer the same failures as anyone else.

@kellyjay said
if we define reality by what we think and believe, that is not truth, that is opinion. Reality is, what it is, with or without us, truth is only when our beliefs agree with reality, and Jesus is the Truth.

Analyse what you have posted. If you do not see how stupid it is ask a friend to help. (If you have a friend)

You say that reality is not what we think and believe.
Then go on to effectively say it is what you think and believe!

@fmf said
How does "the universe" "speak volumes" that show that Muhammed in the cave with Gabriel is not true while the dream/vision that gave rise to the Book of Revelation is somehow true?

It speaks about the reality of God, who said it spoke about either Revelation or anything else.

@wolfgang59 said
Analyse what you have posted. Do you see how stupid it is?

You say that reality is not what we think and believe.
Then go on to effectively say it is what you think and believe!

Never said just my views matter!

@kellyjay said
Never said just my views matter!

You think your views matter?
To whom?