Barriers to belief

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What would be the point of me giving you a reason if you claim to be incapable of deciding whether or not the reason is convincing?

Do you see yourself here as someone who is attempting to convince me to be a Christian like you?

Originally posted by FMF
Do you see yourself here as someone who is attempting to convince me to be a Christian like you?

Not really but who knows, maybe after some time you might realize that your beliefs have changed, yet again.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Not really but who knows, maybe after some time you might realize that your beliefs have changed, yet again.

And do you seriously think your intellectual behaviour on this forum might - somehow, someday - have that effect on any ex-Christian who engages you?

And that's a genuine question.

Originally posted by FMF
And do you seriously think your intellectual behaviour on this forum might - somehow, someday - have that effect on any ex-Christian who engages you?

And that's a genuine question.

I don't know.

Finally a genuine question. 😉

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Finally a genuine question. 😉

This aside is snide rubbish rather than funny. I am one of the very few posters here who can still be bothered to engage you - and I do so in good faith - after your seven months here which you have spent, for the most part, repulsing people who might have once indulged you and your apparently cognitive-dissonance-driven behaviour.

Originally posted by FMF
This aside is snide rubbish rather than funny. I am one of the very few posters here who can still be bothered to engage you - and I do so in good faith - after your seven months here which you have spent, for the most part, repulsing people who might have once indulged you and your apparently cognitive-dissonance-driven behaviour.

Whom in particular have I repulsed that you are aware of?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Whom in particular have I repulsed that you are aware of?

I am not going to name anyone. So, if you think you are still being engaged as much, and by as many posters, and in a sustained way, as you were several months ago before people became accustomed to the nature of your chosen intellectual behaviour, then that is a matter for you.

Originally posted by FMF
I am not going to name anyone. So, if you think you are still being engaged as much, and by as many posters, and in a sustained way, as you were several months ago before people became accustomed to the nature of your chosen intellectual behaviour, then that is a matter for you.

What gave you the impression that it would matter to me about being engaged with many posters?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What gave you the impression that it would matter to me about being engaged with many posters?

I just assumed it. But the heyday back earlier this year when there were several veterans with diverse beliefs here talking to you in a sustained way seem to be long gone. I have a feeling that the same thing may have happened to you before on other web sites and other message boards, although it's just speculation on my part.

Originally posted by FMF
Yes. This: it's true for me to say that I find your pronouncements about the supernatural to be far-fetched and incredible.

Would you say these far-fetched statements are false?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Would you say these far-fetched statements are false?

I don't think you are deliberately saying something false or lying or being ignorant when you claim things like 'being angry with your brother is equally as evil as exterminating 6,000,000 Jews' or 'I am going to live on forever in the afterlife after I die'. But I obviously don't think your claims about these things are true. As I say, I think you are mistaken. I think you've bought into a mythology.

Originally posted by FMF
I don't think you are deliberately saying something false or lying or being ignorant when you claim things like 'being angry with your brother is equally as evil as exterminating 6,000,000 Jews' or 'I am going to live on forever in the afterlife after I die'. But I obviously don't think your claims about these things are true. As I say, I think you are mistaken. I think you've bought into a mythology.

So when you say, "I don't think you are deliberately saying something false or lying or being ignorant..." and "But I obviously don't think your claims about these things are true." Are you saying that that my beliefs are neither true nor false? Is that what you view a mythology? Something that is neither true nor false?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Are you saying that that my beliefs are neither true nor false?

No of course I'm not. I am saying exactly what I said. You do not need to paraphrase what it was. What I've said is not only clear, but I have explained the thinking that underpins it.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So when you say, [...] "... I obviously don't think your claims about these things are true." Are you saying that that my beliefs are neither true nor false?

Not at all. I am saying I obviously don't think your claims about these things are true. In fact, they were the exact words I used.