@fmf saidJohn 1 English Standard Version (ESV)
I am asking if you have any Bible verses pertaining to the specific issue I have raised. If you don't have any, just say you don't have any.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
@divegeester saidHow did you know you were saved?
How will I know if I’ve lost my salvation?
I'm not being flip; the answers to both questions are closely linked.
@kellyjay saidSo you don't have any. There are none. You should have just said so.
John 1 English Standard Version (ESV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
@suzianne saidThen why don’t you explain how someone can lose thier salvation, be aware that they have lost thier salvation, avoid doing so, regain thier salvation, lose it again, regain it again etc and so on and so forth.
How did you know you were saved?
I'm not being flip; the answers to both questions are closely linked.
I’ll wait right here....
@divegeester saidFirst, do you believe OSAS?
Then why don’t you explain how someone can lose thier salvation, be aware that they have lost thier salvation, avoid doing so, regain thier salvation, lose it again, regain it again etc and so on and so forth.
I’ll wait right here....
I certainly don't believe the endless cycle you describe.
@suzianne saidFirst he complains against OSAS, now he complains against someone who is against OSAS, does it really matter what he believes? He only complains, because that is what he does, you can disagree or agree with him he will find a reason to complain.
First, do you believe OSAS?
I certainly don't believe the endless cycle you describe.
@kellyjay saidI’ve never complained about OSAS.
First he complains against OSAS, now he complains against someone who is against OSAS, does it really matter what he believes? He only complains, because that is what he does, you can disagree or agree with him he will find a reason to complain.
You don’t read carefully, you struggle to understand and you won’t converse with me. No wonder you have to make stuff up like this post of yours.
@suzianne saidWhat “endless cycle”?
First, do you believe OSAS?
I certainly don't believe the endless cycle you describe.
Yes I believe that once a person is a son or daughter of the living God they are his for eternity.
The notion that one can lose thier salvation is demonstrably risible nonsense when scrutinised under the broad light of scripture.
@divegeester said
@sonship
Here is a copy/paste from the statement of beliefs from the website of your own church:
”In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God; that there is a unique Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit; that Jesus Christ is the Son of God incarnated to be a man; that Christ died on the cross for our sins, shedding His blood for our redemption; that on the third day He was bodily raised from the dead; that He has been exalted to the right hand of God and made the Lord of all; and that He is coming again for His own and to set up His kingdom on earth.”
https://www.localchurches.org/beliefs/salvation/
Summation: I don’t believe in the trinity doctrine and therefore you cannot classify me as Christian, and therefore I will burn in Hell with the rest Of the unbelievers.
Sonship, is this summation by me correct or not?
@sonship saidOr...you could just answer the simple honest question instead of dodging it like a pro.
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Anyone interested, just read the thread, unfortunately from the start.
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Anyone interested to see what Dive dodges, read the thread from the top about 60% through.