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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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@kellyjay said
If you watch his posts, its almost never a topic, its a person, or something about that person.
Philokalia called divegeester a "heretic". Is he?

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@fmf said
Philokalia called divegeester a "heretic". Is he?
Why ask me?

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@kellyjay said
Why ask me?
In order to elicit your answer.

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@kellyjay said
Why ask me?
Gutless.

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@fmf said
Philokalia called divegeester a "heretic". Is he?
So far sonship, Secondjoseph and philokalia have called me a heretic because I hold different views from them.

Of maybe it’s because they don’t like me and want shove a nasty barb into to me...

Either way it’s all way to streetfighty for the likes of KellyJay who will be content to peer out from behind his net curtains.**



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**that is what’s called a metaphorical statement by the way KellyJay. That’s M E T A P H O R E

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@fmf said
In order to elicit your answer.
Why do you care what a nameless no body thinks or says?

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@kellyjay said
Why do you care what a nameless no body thinks or says?
Are you in child mode now?

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@divegeester

So far sonship, Secondjoseph and philokalia have called me a heretic because I hold different views from them.


I did call you a heretic. I was not sure it was fair to do so. But until I am sure I do not take it back (as if you cared).

I called you a heretic not because you disagree with me or because of personal like or dislike.

You being called a heretic was because you teach that the Son of God puts away His eternal authority at the end of the millennium and practically said that the "office" of the Son of God will be no more.

That, I believe, is a serious heresy. And clinging to it, I have to say you're then a heretic to teach it.

The Bible says Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. 13:8). You teach He is not the same - "forever".

The Bible says that the Son's throne is forever and ever (Heb. 1:8) . You teach that it is for one thousand years but not forever.

Heresy.

You draw on a passage I acknowledge - First Cor. 15:28. But in saying the office of Son of God will be no more you go too far. So I said you're a heretic.

Maybe if you had not been so rude to me for a long time, I might not have returned the favor and called you an unpleasant name.

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@sonship said
@divegeester

So far sonship, Secondjoseph and philokalia have called me a heretic because I hold different views from them.


I did call you a heretic. I was not sure it was fair to do so. But until I am sure I do not take it back (as if you cared).

I called you a heretic not because you disagree with me or because of personal like or dislike.

...[text shortened]... o rude to me for a long time, I might not have returned the favor and called you an unpleasant name.
So I’m going to burn in Hell?

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@divegeester said
So I’m going to burn in Hell?
If you die in a state of abject heresy, that is a possibility as I understand it.

I just recently read that Arius is in hell for his heresy.

It's a serious issue.

Maybe it's time for you to learn proper theology.

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But something tells me that your takeaway from this might just be to call us name for very calmly stating what is theologically accurate.

That's not the right thing to do.

Christ, even if he disagreed with us, wouldn't handle it that way, would he?

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@philokalia said
If you die in a state of abject heresy, that is a possibility as I understand it.

I just recently read that Arius is in hell for his heresy.

It's a serious issue.

Maybe it's time for you to learn proper theology.
There are 66 books in the Bible, around 40 different authors, do you know who spoke about Hell more than anyone? In the OT it wasn't brought up a great deal, and in the NT I don't think more than a very small number talked about, except for a specific person. I wonder if anyone knows, and thinks of Him as someone who may have a reason to know about?

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@philokalia said

Maybe it's time for you to learn proper theology.
What is “proper theology”?

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@kellyjay said
There are 66 books in the Bible, around 40 different authors, do you know who spoke about Hell more than anyone? In the OT it wasn't brought up a great deal, and in the NT I don't think more than a very small number talked about, except for a specific person. I wonder if anyone knows, and thinks of Him as someone who may have a reason to know about?
How you decide which parts of the Bible are literal and which are not?

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@divegeester said
How you decide which parts of the Bible are literal and which are not?
Sonship here is a copy/paste from the statement of beliefs from the website of your own church sect:

”In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God; that there is a unique Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit; that Jesus Christ is the Son of God incarnated to be a man; that Christ died on the cross for our sins, shedding His blood for our redemption; that on the third day He was bodily raised from the dead; that He has been exalted to the right hand of God and made the Lord of all; and that He is coming again for His own and to set up His kingdom on earth.”

https://www.localchurches.org/beliefs/salvation/



Sonship I am calling out this statement claiming that salvation is linked to believing in the trinity doctrine as being gross error.

Feel free to correct me if you think I’m wrong.....

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