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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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@kellyjay said
If you watch his posts, its almost never a topic, its a person, or something about that person.
Philokalia called divegeester a "heretic". Is he?

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@fmf said
Philokalia called divegeester a "heretic". Is he?
Why ask me?

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@kellyjay said
Why ask me?
In order to elicit your answer.

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@fmf said
In order to elicit your answer.
Why do you care what a nameless no body thinks or says?

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@divegeester

So far sonship, Secondjoseph and philokalia have called me a heretic because I hold different views from them.


I did call you a heretic. I was not sure it was fair to do so. But until I am sure I do not take it back (as if you cared).

I called you a heretic not because you disagree with me or because of personal like or dislike.

You being called a heretic was because you teach that the Son of God puts away His eternal authority at the end of the millennium and practically said that the "office" of the Son of God will be no more.

That, I believe, is a serious heresy. And clinging to it, I have to say you're then a heretic to teach it.

The Bible says Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. 13:8). You teach He is not the same - "forever".

The Bible says that the Son's throne is forever and ever (Heb. 1:8) . You teach that it is for one thousand years but not forever.

Heresy.

You draw on a passage I acknowledge - First Cor. 15:28. But in saying the office of Son of God will be no more you go too far. So I said you're a heretic.

Maybe if you had not been so rude to me for a long time, I might not have returned the favor and called you an unpleasant name.

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If you die in a state of abject heresy, that is a possibility as I understand it.

I just recently read that Arius is in hell for his heresy.

It's a serious issue.

Maybe it's time for you to learn proper theology.

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But something tells me that your takeaway from this might just be to call us name for very calmly stating what is theologically accurate.

That's not the right thing to do.

Christ, even if he disagreed with us, wouldn't handle it that way, would he?

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@philokalia said
If you die in a state of abject heresy, that is a possibility as I understand it.

I just recently read that Arius is in hell for his heresy.

It's a serious issue.

Maybe it's time for you to learn proper theology.
There are 66 books in the Bible, around 40 different authors, do you know who spoke about Hell more than anyone? In the OT it wasn't brought up a great deal, and in the NT I don't think more than a very small number talked about, except for a specific person. I wonder if anyone knows, and thinks of Him as someone who may have a reason to know about?

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