05 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidIt's animal nature.
Oh, Ok. I don’t think greed and corruption will ever leave the human race without God because that’s human nature.
But I understand you think further evolution may cause those traits to diminish and be eradicated.
I disagree and one reason is I think humans without God place their faith in money as a means of security, and it seems many humans can never get enough, which shows how deficient money is as a source of security.
And a great many Christians link money with security. How many do as Jesus bid them, and forsake all their possessions and wealth to follow him?
05 Dec 21
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI believe Jesus Christ, in that passage you’re referring to, was demonstrating to the rich young ruler that he had not kept all of the commandments and in fact could not, that he (like everyone else) was incapable of loving God with all his heart, soul, mind and strength and incapable of loving his neighbor as himself.
It's animal nature.
And a great many Christians link money with security. How many do as Jesus bid them, and forsake all their possessions and wealth to follow him?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAbsolutely.
Was God perfect when He was in the flesh?
But Jesus Christ was born of a Virgin (Isaiah 7:14 was the prophecy of that) and therefore was born without the sin nature that comes from Adam (original sin.)
@pb1022 saidThe problem is that Adam is a mythical man and humans evolved as a species.
Absolutely.
But Jesus Christ was born of a Virgin (Isaiah 7:14 was the prophecy of that) and therefore was born without the sin nature that comes from Adam (original sin.)
No Adam, no original sin.
(The thumb down didn't come from me).
05 Dec 21
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat’s obviously your opinion. I would say Jesus Christ (and I think His disciples also) believed in a literal reading of the creation account in Genesis.
The problem is that Adam is a mythical man and humans evolved as a species.
No Adam, no original sin.
(The thumb down didn't come from me).
So if that is the case (and I believe it is and was basing my answer to your question on it) then original sin exists via Adam.
15 Dec 21
@sonship saidAtheism isn't a religion.
@Ghost-of-a-DukeThe problem is that Adam is a mythical man and humans evolved as a species.
No Adam, no original sin.
That's your religion speaking - your religion which you think is something else.
Not sure why you are struggling with this.
15 Dec 21
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThe theory of evolution is a religion. Mother Earth is the goddess, Charles Darwin is the prophet and On the Origin of Species is the bible.
Atheism isn't a religion.
Not sure why you are struggling with this.
The theory of evolution is not science. It doesn’t follow the Scientific Method as macroevolution was neither observed nor demonstrated by an experiment.
Frankly, more evidence exists for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ than exists for macroevolution.
15 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidIs there a polite way to say you've completely lost the plot?
The theory of evolution is a religion. Mother Earth is the goddess, Charles Darwin is the prophet and On the Origin of Species is the bible.
The theory of evolution is not science. It doesn’t follow the Scientific Method as macroevolution was neither observed nor demonstrated by an experiment.
Frankly, more evidence exists for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ than exists for macroevolution.
Please don't respond to my posts. There are plenty of other people to engage with here who may humour your backward (and frankly depressing) way of thinking.
15 Dec 21
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou misinterpreted a poster and wrongly thought he was referring to atheism as a religion when I believe he was referring to the theory of evolution, which is the religion of atheists.
Is there a polite way to say you've completely lost the plot?
Please don't respond to my posts. There are plenty of other people to engage with here who may humour your backward (and frankly depressing) way of thinking.
And I’d say your way of thinking - that you’re two steps removed from a baboon - is more depressing than my way of thinking, that I (and all other humans) are special creations of God.
Contemplate that while you’re eating a banana.