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Former Aologiest for Gay Theology

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biffo konker

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Originally posted by Captain Strange
Many churches run courses that claim to cure gayness.
Joe Dallas,the guy in the video in the OP,runs Genesis Counseling.
100 dollars for 50 minutes consultation.😲

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
really google cant find studies in homsexulaity and environmentalism? i found About 795 results (0.56 seconds). No he reiterates the findings of the New England medical journal and draws certain conclusions on its basis. Look Biffo, either refute the data or not, all this sniping at the side is undignified.
At the risk of being accused of 'relentlessly hounding you to death', can I ask if you understand the difference between a "study" and a "Google search"?

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Originally posted by biffo konker
Joe Dallas,the guy in the video in the OP,runs Genesis Counseling.
100 dollars for 50 minutes consultation.😲
Prove it.
That would be evidence from their OWN websites or their own advertising.

While you're gathering up your proof some others can view this, perhaps.

Greg Koukl: The Intolerance of Tolerance

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Originally posted by biffo konker
What data?

'compelling viewing, 26 studies, up to 46 percent of the persons in adoption by gay couples engaged in homosexual behavior, a huge environmental factor.'

This 'data',that you are so happy with,does not exist.
no that is logically fallacious, because you do to have access to it or it was not cited does not prove that it doesn't exist, that is an appeal to ignorance argument.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no that is logically fallacious, because you do to have access to it or it was not cited does not prove that it doesn't exist, that is an appeal to ignorance argument.
Okay okay, I'm back on "ignore". Thanks a LOT GoaD 😠

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Originally posted by divegeester
Okay okay, I'm back on "ignore". Thanks a LOT GoaD 😠
you are not back on ignore your question was simply an irrelevance to the subject at hand.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you are not back on ignore your question was simply an irrelevance to the subject at hand.
So the bottom line is even though you admit there may be a genetic link to some homosexual behavior, the ones that are not allow you to reject all of that group as bound for hell. Is that about it?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am unable to condemn anyone on the basis of no evidence or a vague generality. There is in law such a thing as due process and the rule of law which means in essence that there are certain formalities that must be met and that no one is above the law. Evidence must also be established and corroborated, therefore without any of these necessary prer ...[text shortened]... ou and is an affront to my personal majesty and dignity and as a sentient, rational human being.
Asking for studies to be cited is now 'petty sniping'?! LOL!! What a wally.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Asking for studies to be cited is now 'petty sniping'?! LOL!! What a wally.
Hey sup Proper Rollin Stone? he has attempted every logical fallacy in the book, arguments of ignorance, ad hominem, questioning his motives, every single thing with the exception of refuting the data and the logic in almost obligatory logically challenged fashion.

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Originally posted by sonship
[b]Prove it.
That would be evidence from their OWN websites or their own advertising.


Yes,of course.
http://www.joedallas.com
on the right hand side of the page click on 'counceling and consultations'

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So the bottom line is even though you admit there may be a genetic link to some homosexual behavior, the ones that are not allow you to reject all of that group as bound for hell. Is that about it?
Dude I do not profess belief in hell, jehovah's witnesses for the last 150 years have not professed belief in hell.

Look dude your biological determinism is busted, you are still looking for a genetic component right, that means logically you haven't found one yet, right. On top of that, even if you did find one it cannot be used to demonstrate determinism because we are not at the mercy of our genetic predisposition, that is why as i have stated rapists cannot use a biological determinist argument to justify rape because they are free moral agents and their genetics DO NOT cause them to rape and even if they did its still immoral. Now I suggest that you think deeply about the implications these ideas have on your biological determinism because i tell you truly, its busted and that's why they are looking as the video states to other areas like prenatal etc etc.

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Originally posted by biffo konker
Originally posted by sonship
[b]Prove it.
That would be evidence from their OWN websites or their own advertising.


Yes,of course.
http://www.joedallas.com
on the right hand side of the page click on 'counceling and consultations'
hey biffo you need a consultation help you cure yourself of your gayness? ill do it for free!

biffo konker

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no that is logically fallacious, because you do to have access to it or it was not cited does not prove that it doesn't exist, that is an appeal to ignorance argument.
If google cannot find it there is a good chance it does not exist.
Google is not perfect but it is very good.For example,as a test, I googled ' Redhotpawn robbie carrobie pants down ' and got 644 hits.😛

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Originally posted by biffo konker
If google cannot find it there is a good chance it does not exist.
Google is not perfect but it is very good.For example,as a test, I googled ' Redhotpawn robbie carrobie pants down ' and got 644 hits.😛
oh my dear Biffo your argument is once again fallacious like saying because Nasa have not found extraterrestrial life it does not exist. Really Biffo dude, really?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Hey sup Proper Rollin Stone? he has attempted every logical fallacy in the book, arguments of ignorance, ad hominem, questioning his motives, every single thing with the exception of refuting the data and the logic in almost obligatory logically challenged fashion.
Look I appreciate for a man as mentally challenged as yourself this might be hard to understand, but anyone with more than a couple of brain cells, who has read more than one science book, has no trouble understanding this really quite rudimentary point.

If someone references 'scientific studies', then you cite them. End of. Period. Full stop. Tab. New paragraph.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

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