Spirituality
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23 Mar 22
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@fmf saidWhy would I want to rule out personal testimony? Any truth, any happiness, would encompass anything, from the generic to the personal.
Well, you know my answer. I see it as a false dichotomy. Perhaps I ought not to attempt to get any more specific than that as you seem to want to rule out any personal testimony!
23 Mar 22
@kellyjay saidWell, it seems you are stonewalling with regard to giving any potentially OP-clarifying examples of "truths" that you think are antithetical to "happiness", and you have reacted testily to me probing you for your own perspective, so it follows that you are - de facto - ruling out personal testimony, right?
Why would I want to rule out personal testimony?
23 Mar 22
@fmf saidI'm telling you to pick whatever you want to use; how is that stone walling? You can ponder anything you think of as truth and anything you think is true.
Well, it seems you are stonewalling with regard to giving any potentially OP-clarifying examples of "truths" that you think are antithetical to "happiness", and you have reacted testily to me probing you for your own perspective, so it follows that you are - de facto - ruling out personal testimony, right?
23 Mar 22
@kellyjay saidI have already answered your question, more than once. You seem to be dissatisfied with it. So I've asked you for examples of "truths" that you believe are antithetical to "happiness" that - therefore - might make one quest different from the other quest. You are steadfastly refusing to say. That's why I used the word "stonewalling".
I'm telling you to pick whatever you want to use; how is that stonewalling?
23 Mar 22
@fmf saidIf you answered the question, what have I been dissatisfied with, and how have I expressed dissatisfaction over your answer to the question?
I have already answered your question, more than once. You seem to be dissatisfied with it. So I've asked you for examples of "truths" that you believe are antithetical to "happiness" that - therefore - might make one quest different from the other quest. You are steadfastly refusing to say. That's why I used the word "stonewalling".
23 Mar 22
@kellyjay saidI interpret your seemingly complete refusal to discuss your own OP in the context of the responses it has elicited to be an expression/demonstration of your dissatisfaction at finding yourself in the corner into which you have backed.
If you answered the question, what have I been dissatisfied with, and how have I expressed dissatisfaction over your answer to the question?
23 Mar 22
@fmf saidI've not been backed into the corner, I asked the question those who cared answered, and a couple wanted to talk about me.
I interpret your seemingly complete refusal to discuss your own OP in the context of the responses it has elicited to be an expression/demonstration of your dissatisfaction at finding yourself in the corner into which you have backed.
@kellyjay saidDo you have any examples of "truths" that you believe are antithetical to "happiness" that could make the truth quest different from the happiness quest?
I've not been backed into the corner, I asked the question those who cared answered, and a couple wanted to talk about me.
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23 Mar 22
@kellyjay saidNever mind all that jazzhanded obfuscation KellyJay, why not explain what your OP is about seeing as you are claiming it is not about your religion, your beliefs, or about you personally in any way?
It only shows that you cannot speak to anything only about people; in the OP, there wasn't a doctrine presented, dogma, religious, or scientific truth, just the question of truth, and you couldn't grasp that! That went right over your head and more than likely still is. You have to have a motive to assault, something about someone to speak about, a simple topic, not you.
I'm puzzled by this debate, as I see nothing wrong with the opening statement. There are truths I'm not happy with, but in my experience it has been better to acknowledge rather than ignore them.
The most recent example of this are my chess games here. I started off winning most of the games but have run into a wall. The truth is I play too fast, have been reacting rather than thinking and playing now feels like work rather than fun. Acknowledging these truths doesn't make me happy in the short run. But it makes it possible for make changes enabling me to play better and enjoy the game again...knock on wood.
23 Mar 22
@kilroy70 saidConforming to the truth (I also play too fast) is always better than not (I never seem to learn). 🙂
I'm puzzled by this debate, as I see nothing wrong with the opening statement. There are truths I'm not happy with, but in my experience it has been better to acknowledge rather than ignore them.
The most recent example of this are my chess games here. I started off winning most of the games but have run into a wall. The truth is I play too fast, have been reacting rather t ...[text shortened]... es it possible for make changes enabling me to play better and enjoy the game again...knock on wood.