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@kellyjay said
Conforming to the truth (I also play too fast) is always better than not (I never seem to learn).
So, what is your answer to the question "Are we on a happiness quest or a truth quest?"


@fmf said
In what way does this constitute a dichotomy between two different life "quests"?
I'm not sure what that means. I don't believe the two must be mutually exclusive, if that's what you meant.
But given a choice between a happy lie and an unhappy truth, I'll take the unhappy truth.


@kilroy70 said
I'm not sure what that means. I don't believe the two must be mutually exclusive, if that's what you meant.
I have been trying to get the OP poster to address this flaw in his Either-Or question.


@kilroy70 said
But given a choice between a happy lie and an unhappy truth, I'll take the unhappy truth.
So, your answer to the OP question "Are we on a happiness quest or a truth quest?" is "truth quest"?


I don't see how one's purpose in life should or can be divided into EITHER "a happiness" quest OR "a truth quest". As thought exercises go, it's counterintuitive and it rings false. It brings into question what the OP poster actually means by "happiness" and "truth" and how they can be antithetical to each other.


@fmf said
I have been trying to get the OP poster to address this flaw in his Either-Or question.
His question seemed straightforward enough...but maybe that's just me.
So, do I want to know the truth of a matter (like it or not) or do I want to be a happy ignoramus? 😊
Sometimes I wish I was a happy ignoramus. No joke, some truths are very hard to bear.


@kilroy70 said
His question seemed straightforward enough...but maybe that's just me.
So, do I want to know the truth of a matter (like it or not) or do I want to be a happy ignoramus? 😊
Sometimes I wish I was a happy ignoramus. No joke, some truths are very hard to bear.
So, to refer back to the OP: "Are you on a happiness quest or a truth quest?"


@fmf said
So, to refer back to the OP: "Are you on a happiness quest or a truth quest?"
Yes

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@fmf said
I have been trying to get the OP poster to address this flaw in his Either-Or question.
It can be an either-or, but it doesn't have to be as well; from time to time, the truth does hurt.

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@kellyjay said
It can be an either-or, but it doesn't have to be as well; from time to time, the truth does hurt.
from time to time, the truth does hurt

[1] Can you give an example of someone making 'truths that hurt' into a "quest"?

[2] Can you explain how the occurrence of 'truths that hurt' can be antithetical to a life spent in a "quest for happiness"?

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The two examples KellyJay has mentioned so far have been about COVID and chess. Is that really the kind of thing his thread is supposedly about?


@fmf said
So, what is your answer to the question "Are we on a happiness quest or a truth quest?"
Truth, because that is consistent and real, while happiness is fleeting and can be based upon lies just as easily as truth. Happiness can be a byproduct of things that are not necessarily healthy and good.

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@kellyjay said
Happiness can be a byproduct of things that are not necessarily healthy and good.
Happiness can just as easily be sustained by being true to yourself and always evaluating the "truth" about what you do and what you encounter.

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