Heaven

Originally posted by RBHILL
They pray and understand because they are saved and Born Again.

A saved Sinner gets freedom to go to God and say sorry and get help, unlike a non-believer.

The Secret Decoder Ring Defense rides again!

Originally posted by RBHILL
See I know for once you would be speechless

You spoke a bit too soon , as usual LOL

Originally posted by frogstomp
You spoke a bit too soon , as usual LOL

You are rude as usual LOL.

Originally posted by RBHILL
You are rude as usual LOL.

"See I know for once you would be speechless "

edit LOL

Originally posted by RBHILL
You are rude as usual LOL.

What is rude?
Is it not rude to condemn?
Is it not rude to pretend to know the Mind of God?

Originally posted by KneverKnight
Who's bashing Christianity here?
I asked a question and receive evasion and nonsense.
Anyways, not all Christians take the Bible literally.

Anyways, not all Christians take the Bible literally.

Referring to up to the mid-2nd century in Volume 1 of his The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine, Jaroslav Pelikan makes the comment quoted below. For background: at this time, there was no NT canon, although Marcion had proposed one consisting of Luke and some of the letters of Paul. “Scripture,” at this time referred pretty much to the Hebrew Scriptures (to which Marcion accorded no doctrinal authority). Although, according to Pelikan, “There was an increasing tendency to cite apostolic writings as authoritative, and there seem to be the beginnings of collections of these writings.” (p.79)

Then, re literal interpretation, Pelikan states:

“There was no early Christian who simultaneously acknowledged the doctrinal authority of the Old Testament and interpreted it literally.” (p. 81, my italics).

Am still reading this dense work, and am only halfway thru vol. 1. Don’t know how far I’ll make it… :'(

Originally posted by vistesd
[b]Anyways, not all Christians take the Bible literally.

Referring to up to the mid-2nd century in Volume 1 of his The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine, Jaroslav Pelikan makes the comment quoted below. For background: at this time, there was no NT canon, although Marcion had proposed one consisting of Luke and som ...[text shortened]... ading this dense work, and am only halfway thru vol. 1. Don’t know how far I’ll make it… :'([/b]

Good luck friend, sounds like heavy wading ...

Quid Pro Quo

Rude is going around yelling at people they are going to hell for not believing in God the way you think they should!

Originally posted by frogstomp
Rude is going around yelling at people they are going to hell for not believing in God the way you think they should!

1. He is not "going around"
2. He is not yelling
3. If he was it would be more of a service than a rude act.

Originally posted by bobbob1056th
1. He is not "going around"
2. He is not yelling
3. If he was it would be more of a service than a rude act.

Did your Dad tell you that, too?

Originally posted by bobbob1056th
1. He is not "going around"
2. He is not yelling
3. If he was it would be more of a service than a rude act.

Do you fundies organize in squads?
Anyways, thanks for the Mark reference where Jesus says he isn't God, I overlooked that one.

Originally posted by KneverKnight
Do you fundies organize in squads?
Anyways, thanks for the Mark reference where Jesus says he isn't God, I overlooked that one.

Then you'll like Matthew 24:36 as well:

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

How can Jesus, who is supposedly God, not know the day and hour of his own Second Coming?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Then you'll like Matthew 24:36 as well:

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

How can Jesus, who is supposedly God, not know the day and hour of his own Second Coming?

Well, what are you asking me for?

I suppose the man-flesh(that Jesus had) interfered with the god-like charisma (that He had)

Or maybe the proof-readers of Those Who Decided What Shall Be In The Holy Book And What Shalt Not got confused, who knows ??

Bad editor is my guess.

😀

Originally posted by bobbob1056th
1. He is not "going around"
2. He is not yelling
3. If he was it would be more of a service than a rude act.

You been here how long?

Originally posted by KneverKnight
OK, it's implicit that some people believe in the Trinity.
Nevertheless, it is perfectly reasonable to infer that in this case, Jesus is saying he is not God.

It is reasonable to infer that Jesus did not want the young man to think He was God. Either:

a. Jesus did not think he was God and did not want the young man to have a misperception
or
b. Jesus did think he was God but did not want the young man to think it (for whatever reason).

I am reminded of the incident of the adultress. In that case, Jesus does not actually say that the woman should not be stoned.