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Hovering between lies and delusional thinking

Hovering between lies and delusional thinking

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@fmf said
Everything you say about your personal belief in supernatural causality is subjective and not objective. You are speculating about "the truth".
So what?

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You are completely entitled to [1] refer to your personal opinions about God etc. as "the truth". And [2] you are also completely entitled to describe the thinking of people who don't share your personal opinions about God etc. as "delusional". There. Does that get to the heart of your OP?

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@kellyjay said
So what?
Exactly. So, if you diagnose "delusional thinking" on the basis of divergence from your notion of what is "the truth", then what of it?

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@fmf said
You are completely entitled to [1] refer to your personal opinions about God etc. as "the truth". And [2] you are also completely entitled to describe the thinking of people who don't share your personal opinions about God etc. as "delusional". There. Does that get to the heart of your OP?
Again so what I was not aware I was looking for someone’s approval for my views. None of that matters as I have been saying we either are getting right or not, how we come to our views are not as important as getting it right.

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@fmf said
Exactly. So, if you diagnose "delusional thinking" on the basis of divergence from your notion of what is "the truth", then what of it?
If we are basing our views on wrong assumptions that color everything around us we are walking in a delusion, and if we are defending our delusions against what is we are resisting truth.

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@kellyjay said
Again so what I was not aware I was looking for someone’s approval for my views.
No one is giving you "approval ". Don't pout.

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@fmf said
No one is giving you "approval ". Don't pout.
Just responding to your post, you do tend question the person and couch a lot about what is said about the one you are talking to. No pout an observation.

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@kellyjay said
Just responding to your post, you do tend question the person and couch a lot about what is said about the one you are talking to. No pout an observation.
You only have your personal opinions. Nothing else. Same as me. Same as all of us here.

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@fmf said
Exactly. So, if you diagnose "delusional thinking" on the basis of divergence from your notion of what is "the truth", then what of it?
If all that you are looking at is
me it doesn’t matter and it has nothing to do with this thread.

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@fmf said
You only have your personal opinions. Nothing else. Same as me. Same as all of us here.
Yes, that supposed to be a revelation?

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@kellyjay said
If all that you are looking at is me it doesn’t matter and it has nothing to do with this thread.
I am looking at what you think and claim on this topic and responding to it [just as you ask me about what I believe week in week out, year in year our; it's silly to assert that that "has nothing to do with this thread".

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@kellyjay said
Yes, that supposed to be a revelation?
No, it simply means you should not be running away from the topic.

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@fmf said
I am looking at what you think and claim on this topic and responding to it [just as you ask me about what I believe week in week out, year in year our; it's silly to assert that that "has nothing to do with this thread".
Shocker, In this thread, it is put forward that we can be missing the truth and walk around looking at things not as they are; that is the point. On the other hand, in two threads of like nature, you insist you want instead to talk about my views as if I'm pushing something specific and practically demand I give an example. I did, with two possible things that cannot be true simultaneously. You are bringing up all previous conversations to justify something that isn't being alleged in this thread at any point of tine about anything other than if we don't get it right, we are in error.

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@fmf said
No, it simply means you should not be running away from the topic.
You have not even addressed the topic. You are too busy trying to figure me out, pity.

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@kellyjay said
You have not even addressed the topic. You are too busy trying to figure me out, pity.
I understand the topic completely. And I understand the way you refer to "the truth" as if it is a rhetorical gimmick. Trump is lying repeatedly about how he supposedly won the 2020 election [by a landslide, no less] and those that buy into his lie are engaged in delusional thinking; are they two examples of "lies" and "delusional thinking" that you agree with, bearing in mind the thread title?

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