Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou honestly believe Grampy Bobby may have dropped his "eternal punishment" stance on this thread?
Where did he contradict his "eternal punishment" stance?
I have explained it once i will not do so again ad nauseum, there are two points of contention, one which seems to espouse a belief in eternal punishment one which seems to espouse a belief in the doctrine of annihilation.
I think it might help if you would simply explain his use of the term, doctrine of annihilation.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHis reference to a doctrine of annihilation was about how it would be diametrically opposite {"contradictory"] to the meaning [the "truth"] of scripture and to the doctrine of eternal torment.
why dont you simply explain his reference to a doctrine of annihilation?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere are two things that you have said:
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1. That you have actually no real way of knowing which GB subscribes to
2. Grampy Bobby's stance is unclear whether he supports eternal torment or annihilation
Do you stand by the veracity of these two expressions of your viewpoint?
Originally posted by FMFyes I can see that now after rereading the entire thread, GB therefore certainly espouses the doctrine of eternal torment.
His reference to a doctrine of annihilation was about how it would be diametrically opposite {"contradictory"] to the meaning [the "truth"] of scripture and to the doctrine of eternal torment.
Originally posted by FMFwhat is it about, all personal references will be ignored that you fail to grasp. I am perfectly willing to discuss any topic on the merits of the arguments themselves but this constant referencing to personalities I will have no part.
Here are two things that you have said:
[b]1. That you have actually no real way of knowing which GB subscribes to
2. Grampy Bobby's stance is unclear whether he supports eternal torment or annihilation
Do you stand by the veracity of these two expressions of your viewpoint?[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAt last. You are no longer in that corner of your own making. You don't have to act all silly any more. Good for you. 🙂
yes I can see that now after rereading the entire thread, GB therefore certainly espouses the doctrine of eternal torment.
If you feel up to refuting Grampy Bobby's stance on "eternal torment for unbelievers" using scripture, it would constitute interesting forum traffic, at least to me.
Originally posted by FMFno refute it yourself
At last. You are no longer in that corner of your own making. You don't have to act all silly any more. Good for you. 🙂
If you feel up to refuting Grampy Bobby's stance on "eternal torment for unbelievers" using scripture, it would constitute interesting forum traffic, at least to me.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are what you post, robbie. You cannot simply relinquish responsibility for the content of your posts. I welcome any move on your own part to have no part in "constant referencing to personalities", although ~ quite frankly ~ you have made that promise before, many times.
I am perfectly willing to discuss any topic on the merits of the arguments themselves but this constant referencing to personalities I will have no part.
Originally posted by FMFno one is relinquishing any responsibility, in fact it can be argued that its highly irresponsible to make continued attacks upon the persona behind the posts rather than address the arguments that they are actually making.
You are what you post, robbie. You cannot simply relinquish responsibility for the content of your posts. I welcome any move on your own part to have no part in "constant referencing to personalities", although ~ quite frankly ~ you have made that promise before, many times.
Originally posted by FMFno your continued references to honesty are made with reference to me personally and its simply untrue to claim otherwise. Whether GB believes in eternal torment or annihilation has absolutely nothing to do with my honesty or lack of and constitutes nothing but an irrelevancy.
My reference is not to a "persona" but to the content of your posts, specifically the ones I quoted.