28 May 22
@suzianne saidIf you actually bothered to read the maybe 6 threads about this in which kellyjay and I have been discussing this topic you would know that that is exactly why I put “few” in quotation marks.
"Few" is the exact word the Bible uses to describe those who are saved.
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." -- Matthew 7:13-14, KJV
Jesus did not come to save everyone, only those who choose to be saved. Jesus' salvation is NOT "automatic".
Why don’t you just try to contribute more instead of rocking up 6 months and 6 threads into the debate?
28 May 22
@kellyjay saidIt’s “complex” because you can’t answer! If YOUR doctrine old chap. You are totally clear on how many beings their are in your trinity, so how many spirits are there in the trinity?
You don't accept that; it is the Trinity, the nature of God, which is far more complexthen our natural world, and why wouldn't it be?
Not beings!
Not Gods!
Spirits?
See if you can answer the question succinctly and unequivocally.
28 May 22
@divegeester saidGiving me scripture handpicked while ignoring the whole scripture is what you
I’ve give you lots of scriptures supporting my position lots of times. You tend to ignore them.
do; when you give your cherry-picked verses and claim they prove your point you
get shown what you are saying doesn't line up with the other verses, and you
don't defend that; you decide what a good verse is and what isn't.
28 May 22
@divegeester saidGod is a Spirit dive, so when we talk about the Spirit of God, we are talking about God, who is Spirit, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
It’s “complex” because you can’t answer! If YOUR doctrine old chap. You are totally clear on how many beings their are in your trinity, so how many spirits are there in the trinity?
Not beings!
Not Gods!
Spirits?
See if you can answer the question succinctly and unequivocally.
28 May 22
@divegeester saidOne, if you look at God, and if you look at the individuals who together are God,
Thanks for repeating your belief.
Meanwhile, how many spirits are there in the trinity?
you could also say three. I've said this repeatedly, all you are doing is asking for the
number of the Trinity as if it were a person like us and not someone complex as
God is. You have to date, failed to explain those things I have asked and said about
the god of your imagination. You know the god who pretends to be more than one
while he is just one.
29 May 22
You’ve already admitted to being wrong about “3 beings” in the trinity … although I think that from the Babylonian original of it you are actually closer than you realise… is this why you won’t tell me how many spirits there are in the trinity?
Surely my questioning of you like this must make you reflect on WHY it is you cannot answer me?
29 May 22
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@divegeester saidI admitted that it should have been the other way around three Persons, One Being
You’ve already admitted to being wrong about “3 beings” in the trinity … although I think that from the Babylonian original of it you are actually closer than you realise… is this why you won’t tell me how many spirits there are in the trinity?
Surely my questioning of you like this must make you reflect on WHY it is you cannot answer me?
when that was said. You can look at the vast majority of my posts and see that if I
screwed up and said it, it should have been the other way around, I misspoke. I've
given you the answer; you refuse to see it. Just as you also refuse to talk about all of
the conflicts in how God relates to each other in the Godhead, Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit and man how they refer to One another as separate persons as well. Your
doctrine conflicts with itself!
29 May 22
@kellyjay saidOnly after I had called you on it!
I admitted that it should have been the other way around three Persons, One Being
when that was said.
29 May 22
@divegeester saidYes, and thank you for that; I didn't know I had done that until you pointed it out.
Only after I had called you on it!
29 May 22
@divegeester saidSince God is THREE persons One Being, you could say ONE or THREE with God they
KellyJay
How many spirits are there in the trinity?
One, two or three?
Another honesty test for you.
both would be correct in that, with respect to God, they are the same.
02 Jun 22
@kellyjay saidOk so despite you denying it, with obvious outside help you’ve moved from insisting that there are “3 beings” to “1 being” in the trinity.
Since God is THREE persons One Being, you could say ONE or THREE with God they
both would be correct in that, with respect to God, they are the same.
And now with a little more help after me asking you 20 times how many spirits there are in the trinity, you say one AND three.
This is great š