09 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidI would imagine that the simple answer is that they are not listening to the Holy Spirit, if it dwells within them at all.
Their core beliefs about what "lov[ing] your neighbor as yourself" entails are "far, FAR from the love of Jesus".
So it's not just the case of not "walking the walk".
Any ideas how this could be the case, if in fact they have the "holy spirit" guiding them as they believe?
09 Nov 18
@suzianne saidDogs. Pigs. Serpents. Cockroaches. Faeces. Germs. Diseases. Gosh. What is it with Christians like you and sonship?
I might remind you that Jesus also cautioned us not to give that which is holy unto the dogs.
When Jesus supposedly commanded you to "Love your neighbour as yourself", do you think what he really meant to say was: "Love your neighbour as yourself except when you choose to liken them to dogs"?
09 Nov 18
@fmf said
Dogs. Pigs. Serpents. Cockroaches. Faeces. Germs. Diseases. Gosh. What is it with Christians like you and sonship?
When Jesus supposedly commanded you to "Love your neighbour as yourself", do you think what he really meant to say was: "Love your neighbour as yourself except when you choose to liken them to dogs"?
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@divegeester said
But a few weeks ago you were telling us how you had used your martial arts skills to send men in bars “crashing through countless tables” because they had sexually molested you.
And the dogs speak.
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" -- Matthew 7:16, KJV
09 Nov 18
@suzianne said"Dogs"?
@fmf said
Dogs. Pigs. Serpents. Cockroaches. Faeces. Germs. Diseases. Gosh. What is it with Christians like you and sonship?
When Jesus supposedly commanded you to "Love your neighbour as yourself", do you think what he really meant to say was: "Love your neighbour as yourself except when you choose to liken them to dogs"?
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[b]@divegeester [i]said[ ...[text shortened]... now them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" -- Matthew 7:16, KJV
09 Nov 18
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@suzianne saidAs evidenced by passages such as the following, the Holy Spirit does not dwell in them at all since they do not hear and follow the voice of Jesus: They are not of His sheep.
I would imagine that the simple answer is that they are not listening to the Holy Spirit, if it dwells within them at all.
John 10
26“But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
10 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidAre you "of His sheep"?
As evidenced by passages such as the following, the Holy Spirit does not dwell in them at all since they do not hear and follow the voice of Jesus: They are not of His sheep.
John 10
26“But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
You do not even believe in the deity of Jesus, or that He, the only begotten Son of God, was sent by God to be a Savior to sinful Man.
Are YOU "of His sheep"?
This is your personal way of "talking the talk, yet not walking the walk".
"Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." -- John the Baptist
You don't believe this. So you *talk* the words of the man, Jesus, but you refuse to *walk* with the Lamb of God, Jesus.
This is what you are accusing Christians of doing.
10 Nov 18
@suzianne saidHe will have no excuse.
Are you "of His sheep"?
You do not even believe in the deity of Jesus, or that He, the only begotten Son of God, was sent by God to be a Savior to sinful Man.
Are YOU "of His sheep"?
This is your personal way of "talking the talk, yet not walking the walk".
"Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." -- John the Baptist
You don't believe this ...[text shortened]... refuse to *walk* with the Lamb of God, Jesus.
This is what you are accusing Christians of doing.
10 Nov 18
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@suzianne saidYou seemed to agree that "their core beliefs about what 'lov[ing] your neighbor as yourself' entails are 'far, FAR from the love of Jesus'."
Are you "of His sheep"?
You do not even believe in the deity of Jesus, or that He, the only begotten Son of God, was sent by God to be a Savior to sinful Man.
Are YOU "of His sheep"?
This is your personal way of "talking the talk, yet not walking the walk".
"Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." -- John the Baptist
You don't believe this ...[text shortened]... refuse to *walk* with the Lamb of God, Jesus.
This is what you are accusing Christians of doing.
Yet you now seem to be objecting to the idea that they do not "hear [His] voice" and "follow [Him]".
Do you believe that they DO "hear [His] voice" and "follow [Him]"?
If so, how is it that "their core beliefs about what 'lov[ing] your neighbor as yourself' entails are 'far, FAR from the love of Jesus'"?
If not, then you are "accusing Christians" of the same as I.
10 Nov 18
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@kellyjay saidExcuse for what exactly? Not believing in the same self-serving "gospel" as you do? The "gospel" in which you believe is antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
He will have no excuse.
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10 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidDuring his ministry, Jesus also preached 'I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.' (John 5:30).
Excuse for what exactly? Not believing in the same self-serving "gospel" as you do? The "gospel" in which you believe is antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
Are you cool with that?
10 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidI already posted about them and what I see them doing.
You seemed to agree that "their core beliefs about what 'lov[ing] your neighbor as yourself' entails are 'far, FAR from the love of Jesus'."
Yet you now seem to be objecting to the idea that they do not "hear [His] voice" and "follow [Him]".
Do you believe that they DO "hear [His] voice" and "follow [Him]"?
If so, how is it that "their core beliefs about what 'l ...[text shortened]... 'far, FAR from the love of Jesus'"?
If not, then you are "accusing Christians" of the same as I.
The post you replied to was less about them and more about you.
You merely conflate them to facilitate your evasion.
@thinkofone saidNo, you will give an account for what you do and say, I'm not part of that process.
Excuse for what exactly? Not believing in the same self-serving "gospel" as you do? The "gospel" in which you believe is antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
I will stand before God for what I have done and said you will not be a part of that
process for me either.