If OSAS is in the Bible.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Goats dont know what good works are about. You are one. Ask any atheist about what Jesus means by good works.

I'm not the one claiming to not know what good works are that are required by God, that
would be you. You said you don't know what good works are required, and how many
God requires from your doctrine. I have shared that when you receive God's Spirit it is to
do God's works, and those works are to love God and each other without exception.
Without God's Spirit you are not one of His, with God's Spirit you are.

Do Atheist have God's Spirit in them, if so how did they manage that?

1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?

Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]So you come up with yet ANOTHER thing to talk about...No need to add yet another scripture...

Seriously? It's not "yet ANOTHER thing to talk about " It's not "yet another scripture". It's extremely disingenuous for you to claim otherwise.

I first brought Luke 13:23-28 up as early as page 7:
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/if-o ...[text shortened]... 3#post_3903573

Here we are on page 20!

Why are you making such blatantly false assertions?[/b]

You are right, I'm wrong, sorry my bad. I thought I had addressed everything, but I have not.
I will, again sorry!

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Can you describe the good works that God is looking for, can you tell everyone how many that they are going to have had to do in order to please God?

Isn't Luke 14:12–14 an example?

Originally posted by @fmf
Isn't Luke 14:12–14 an example?

Explain please, to know your views.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Explain please, to know your views.

You asked "Can you describe the good works that God is looking for?" and I suggested the content of Luke 14:12–14 as one possible answer. My "view" is that the words of Luke 14:12–14 might be one possible answer to your question regarding "the good works that God is looking for".

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]So you come up with yet ANOTHER thing to talk about...No need to add yet another scripture...

Seriously? It's not "yet ANOTHER thing to talk about " It's not "yet another scripture". It's extremely disingenuous for you to claim otherwise.

I first brought Luke 13:23-28 up as early as page 7:
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/if-o ...[text shortened]... 3#post_3903573

Here we are on page 20!

Why are you making such blatantly false assertions?[/b]

Luke 13
22 He went on his way through towns and villages, teaching and journeying toward
Jerusalem. 23 And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And
he said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will
seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the master of the house has risen and
shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord,
open to us,’ then he will answer you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ 26 Then you
will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ 27
But he will say, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you come from. Depart from me, all you
workers of evil!’ 28 In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you
see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you
yourselves cast out. 29 And people will come from east and west, and from north and
south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. 30 And behold, some are last who will
be first, and some are first who will be last.”

The first thing the Lord points out is that the way is narrow to enter to be “saved”. We
have discussed this before when I shared with you that Jesus said, “He is the Way”,
please note Jesus did not say He was going to show us a way, tell us about a way,
Jesus said He is the Way and goes on to say that no one goes to the Father but through
Him.

Jesus next points out that many will want to enter, but when the master of the house has
risen and shuts the door no one enters even if they want too. He will share with those on
the outside something very terrible, Jesus doesn’t know them. They will attempt to show
Him their connection to Christ, but it will be meaningless, they will be told to depart
because they are workers of evil, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Those that belong to God will show up from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob along with the
prophets in the Kingdom of God. So, who knows the Lord, and who does not, I’m telling
you that Jesus is the WAY, He gives us His Spirit as a guarantee in our hearts. I have
pointed out more than a few times if we do not have God’s Spirit we do not belong to
God.

2 Corinthians 1:21-22
21 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, 22 and who
has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

Acts 5:32
And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to
those who obey him.”

Romans 5:5
and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our
hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we
might understand the things freely given us by God.

Originally posted by @fmf
You asked "Can you describe the good works that God is looking for?" and I suggested the content of Luke 14:12–14 as one possible answer. My "view" is that the words of Luke 14:12–14 might be one possible answer to your question regarding "the good works that God is looking for".

I agree, loving God and man doing the things for them that they need. It is even better if you
can do it without them being able to pay you back. As most of our 'good works' it is better
if your left hand doesn't know what your right hand is doing. If we are honking our horns in
this life, then just this life is where we will get rewards for those things we do.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Luke 13
22 He went on his way through towns and villages, teaching and journeying toward
Jerusalem. 23 And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And
he said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will
seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the master of the house has risen and
shut ...[text shortened]... ld, but the Spirit who is from God, that we
might understand the things freely given us by God.

Interesting how Jesus describes our lives as walking a path that leads to salvation or a path leading to destruction.

Some would declare salvation as already attained not simply being on the road which requires walking.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Can you describe the good works that God is looking for, can you tell everyone how many that they are going to have had to do in order to please God?

God wants you to invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, and the blind ~ and not ones who are family and friends or neighbours - and He wants you to feed them without any compensation or reward, right? That's an example of "good works that God is looking for", isn't it?

Originally posted by @eladar

Your screwed up view of God's word is rooted in Satan.

My concept is ROOTED in the words of Scripture.
Which verse is "Satanic" ?

Is John 14:16 is Satanic ?

"And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you FOREVER, Even the Spirit of reality, ..." (See John 14:16)

Or is it Ephesians 1:13,14 you call is Satanic?

"In whom you also having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation, in Him also believing, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of the promise,

Who is the pledge of our inheritance unto the redemption of the acquired possession, ... " (Eph. 1:13,14)

Or is it Ephesians 4:30 that you accuse of being Satanic?

" And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed unto the day of redemption." (Eph. 4:30)

Which verse is Satanic ?

Tell me, what happens to the once saved person who dies in a state of rebellion against God's truth?

They may rise to be disciplined when it comes time for Christ to decide reward or discipline. Judgment BEGINS at the house of God (First Peter 4:17)

See First Corinthians 3:14,15.

That doesn't tell me which verse above is Satanic.
Point out which verse/s is Satanic - John 14:16; Eph. 1:13,14; or Eph. 4:30.

You can't answer that question. No time for discipline only judgment.

Sure I can and did.
Judgment may result in REWARD or DISCIPLINE.
You err in making "judgment" synonymous with condemnation.

" ... For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God , So then each one of us will give an account concerning himself to God." (Rom. 14:11,12)

The result of a Christian giving an account before the raised bema seat of examination MAY be reward. If you are a Christian you may be called to give an account for why you said why John 14:16 or Ephesians 1:13,14 or Eph. 4:30 were called by you "SATANIC".

If you repent and teach that they are the word of God helping some truth seekers and Christians, you might receive a reward at the judgment seat of God.

This "judgment seat of God" in Romans 14:10-12 is the same as "the judgment seat of Christ" in Second Corinthians 5:10,11.

Elader,

No one ever taught you about the "bema seat" ?

"For we must all be manifested before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may receive the things done through the body according to what he has practiced, whether it be good or bad.

Knwing therefore the fear of the Lord, we persuade men, but we are made manifest to God; yet I hope that we are made manifest also in your consciences." (2 Cor. 5:10,11)

Paul included HIMSELF in both verses, saying "WE".

I think Paul will be judged and REWARDED.
Some others will be judged and disciplined.
And those who have SHOWN MERCY will be judged WITH mercy.

"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy." (Matt. 5:7)

You ERR in assuming that for a Christian to be JUDGED can only mean condemnation. That is a mistake.

Now you better retract that one or all of these verses uttered by the Lord Jesus or His apostle are "Satanic" - (John 14:16; Eph.1:13,14; Eph. 4:30) [/b].

No one ever taught you about the "bema seat" ?

"For we must all be manifested before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may receive the things done through the body according to what he has practiced, whether it be good or bad.

Knwing therefore the fear of the Lord, we persuade men, but we are made manifest to God; yet I hope that we are made manifest also in your consciences." (2 Cor. 5:10,11)

Paul included HIMSELF in both verses, saying "WE".

I think Paul will be judged and REWARDED.
Some others will be judged and disciplined.
And those who have SHOWN MERCY will be judged WITH mercy.

"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy." (Matt. 5:7)

You ERR in assuming that for a Christian to be JUDGED can only mean condemnation. That is a mistake.

Now you better retract that one or all of these verses uttered by the Lord Jesus or His apostle are "Satanic" - (John 14:16; Eph.1:13,14; Eph. 4:30) [/b].

I also notice you fail to answer the question concerning the seed that grows but gets choked out by weeds. Once again parts of the Bible you gloss over because it does not fit your heretical beliefs

We will have time to go over that.
First you are going to identify which verse is "Satanic".

John 14:16; Eph. 1:13,14; Eph. 4:30.

Do so in your NEXT post.
Try it without raising a red herring of another question.

Originally posted by @rajk999
[b]Ananias and Sapphira - Two Liars, with the Holy Spirit. Satan filled their heart to lie to God

[i]But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceive ...[text shortened]... knowing you, you will continue to twist and manipulate the word of God all the way to damnation.[/b]

Ananias and Sapphire had their lives shortened and they died.

John told of a sin unto death (First John 5:16). The audience there are saved Christians.

Some Christians were sickly and some had died in Corinth for the unworthy way in which they handled the Lord's Table (1 Cor. 11:30) .

In Acts 5 Ananias and Sapphire must have committed a serious sin unto death. Much was seen by them in that inception of the church. So much was expected of them.

So their deception was judged seriously and an example was made of them. They were not forced to hand over all their land. It is their deception that was disciplined.

Certainly Ananias and Sapphire, as disciples of Christ, will be saved yet so as through fire. But since the judgment seat of Christ has not taken place YET. This is premature speculation.

Just because they expired in a chastisement of the Holy Spirit does not prove that they lost eternal life.