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In Christ is not metaphorical

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@sonship said
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Your spirit is comatose, deadened.

You are not functioning on full capacity as you were created to.
Gosh!

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@divegeester

Pace yourself divegeester.
Not too many of your more profound entries in one day.

Maybe write "Gosh" now and "Golly" by noon and "Whoosh" in the evening.
Dazzle us with you insight in timed smaller dosages.

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@sonship said
You are not functioning on full capacity as you were created to.
Are you?

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Do I function with a fuller humanity? Yes.
But I need to be strengthened to abide and enjoy that realm even more.

As a growing Christian, such as the ones the Apostle Paul prayed for, I need to be strengthened more into that realm that God initiated in me when I was regenerated.

"That He would grant you . . . to be stengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man . . . " (Eph. 3:16)

Here the difference. I have received the birth of the inner man and need a more strong enjoyment of that realm - "strenthened . . . into the inner man.".

You on the other hand deny the existence of any such thing. And there is no God to pray to and no Spirit of God to do that strengthening.

So I am at that advantage.
But there is no reason why you could not receive a regenerated inner man and be
made just as strong within and stronger in the experience.

Now for those not skeptical I include more of the passage, which is important.

"That He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man, that Christ may make His home in your hearts through faith, . . . "

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@sonship said
Do I function with a fuller humanity? Yes.
Evidence of this from your demeanour and behaviour here?

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@sonship said
I have received the birth of the inner man and need a more strong enjoyment of that realm - "strenthened . . . into the inner man.". You on the other hand deny the existence of any such thing. And there is no God to pray to and no Spirit of God to do that strengthening. So I am at that advantage.
I don't believe the same things as you do, that's true. But for you to say this difference makes you fully human and me not fully human has more than a whiff of self-aggrandizement and narcissism to it, don't you think?

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@sonship said
There is no reason why you could not receive a regenerated inner man and be made just as strong within and stronger in the experience.
"Just as strong" as whom? "Just as strong" as you, is that what you mean?

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@FMF

That is for others to judge.
You can judge as well.

An important thing is that we receive something called "the inner man" in being regenerated. And the New Testament speaks of the inner man and the outer man.

To be without that regenerated spirit is to be missing a critical component of human life as God designed it. There is no use arguing with the Designer as to how He made us.

And since we are accustomed to living without that realm, the apostle knew that once possessing it the bond bewteen the soul and the new spirit needs to be strengthened such that we learn to live by it.

I need that too - to be strengthened into that blessed realm of the vital and active human spirit.

The human spirit was meant to be the higfhest realm under which the human soul is subservient. In the fall of man, the spirit of man died and either the soul or man or the flesh of some rose to be the most prominent portion of people's lives.

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Some come to this site to learn to play chess. They notice some others are at least down the road and they could learn from them.

Then there are other people who look and find no one good enough. So to them it is no use to learn at all. No one has good enough scores at it for them to be interested in the game.

Everyone, though has to start at it as a novice.
Everyone.

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@sonship said
@divegeester

Pace yourself divegeester.
Not too many of your more profound entries in one day.

Maybe write "Gosh" now and "Golly" by noon and "Whoosh" in the evening.
Dazzle us with you insight in timed smaller dosages.
You appear to have had your feathers ruffled in this thread.

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@sonship said
That is for others to judge.
You can judge as well.
I see no evidence that you are "fully human" and that I am "not fully human".

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@sonship said
Everyone, though has to start at it as a novice.
Forgive the repetition:

Misanthropy 1: we are broken.
Misanthropy 2: non-believers are not fully human.

Narcissism 1: I am made fully human by my faith in my God figure.
Narcissism 2: my beliefs mean I am immortal.

Misanthropy + Narcissism = Christianity

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I don't think the recognition of Christ as Lord and Savior is Narcicism.

Narcicism is about considering one's self above criticism.
The Christian agrees with God that he is damaged by his conduct, stained by his sins, and in need of forgivness.

Narcicism also lacks empathy for others.
The normal Christian knows he is no better than others and has been saved by
grace alone. He is thankful and amazed thsat this undeserving mercy has come
upon him.

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The Narcicist usually really does not feel too good about himself. So he robs others of their good traits and always has to put others down to make himself feel better.

Having said this FMF, I would hasten to add. Even if I AM a narcicist, there is hope for a narcicist personality because NO ONE can do an inside job o f healing and rescue like Jesus.

" In Christ " , which is the main topic of this thread, there is hope for any kind of personality problem because Jesus works within to comform us to be like Himself.

And He, the Son of God, the Son of Man, is the Perfect one. And the sooner we get starte in letting Jesus quicken our comatose human spirit in the being born anew the more time we have for Him to do a marvelous inside work of saving.

All personality types are good for Jesus cause His love to operate in the soul for
transformation.

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@sonship said
I don't think the recognition of Christ as Lord and
Well that isn't what is being labelled narcissistic. But then, you already know that.

I see what you did there.

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