Is the trinity pagan ?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i can read and write it, that appears to me to be the same basis as i read and write
English

Do you read and write Urdu well enough to dispute with biblical translators who work in Greek, Urdu and English?

Originally posted by FMF
Do your read and write Greek well enough to provide your own translated version of the bible, for instance?

By the same reckoning, could you produce your own version of the bible in Urdu?

I am just trying to assess the credibility of your pronouncements on "spiritual matters" specifically in the context of your claimed linguistic skills.

I have already stated what i can do, i will not do so again and again, you have no need
of believing me, i don't mind and i certainly have no intention of convincing you,
goodbye FMF, if your posts have spiritual content in the future, i may comment,
otherwise, they hold no interest for me, please don't be offended.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No spiritual content, if i asked you nicely FMF, will you please simply ignore my posts, I
derive no joy nor satisfaction from interaction with you, to be honest, you have taught
me nothing, and i have in five years I have learned nothing from interacting with you
other than I am best to stay away from you to be honest, If you do not believe m ...[text shortened]... wer your posts on basically nothingness, repeatedly I would ask you simply to
ignore my posts.

You made some claims about "spiritual content" based on specific claims you made about your language abilities which appear to be untrue.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you read and write Urdu well enough to dispute with biblical translators who work in Greek, Urdu and English?

I read it well enough for my own purposes, that is teaching others about the Bible and giving discourses, in Urdu.

Originally posted by FMF
You made some claims about "spiritual content" based on specific claims you made about your language abilities which appear to be untrue.

as i stated, you are free to believe what you want, i frankly don't care what you
believe, cya.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have already stated what i can do....

Do you read and write Greek well enough to enter into disputation with biblical translators who work in Greek and English, and Urdu for that matter?

If you do NOT have the linguistic abilities that you claim to have, what credibility is there in your claim that you can comment on "spiritual matters' from a linguistic point of view?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I read it well enough for my own purposes, that is teaching others about the Bible and giving discourses, in Urdu.

But you wouldn't be able to get a contract to translate texts from Urdu into English, and from English into Urdu, right?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
as i stated, you are free to believe what you want, i frankly don't care what you
believe, cya.

Well I don't believe your claim that you understand Urdu and Greek "on the same basis" as you understand English, no. Do you think other people here will believe you?

Originally posted by FMF
Do you read and write Greek well enough to enter into disputation with biblical translators who work in Greek and English, and Urdu for that matter?

If you do NOT have the linguistic abilities that you claim to have, what credibility is there in your claim that you can comment on "spiritual matters' from a linguistic point of view?

Then why don't you make reference to the points I made initially to RJH, concerning
John 1:1, if you know anything about it.

Originally posted by FMF
Well I don't believe your claim that you understand Urdu and Greek "on the same basis" as you understand English, no. Do you think other people here will believe you?

I don't care what you believe, in fact, its meaningless to me to be honest. What other
people think is also of no consequence to me, why should i care what they think, they
are in no position to verify what i know and what i do not know and instead like you
and RJH, arrogantly persist in assumptions, that is also fine for I realise its the best you
can do.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I don't care what you believe, in fact, its meaningless to me to be honest. What other
people think is also of no consequence to me, why should i care what they think, they
are in no position to verify what i know and what i do not know and instead like you
and RJH, arrogantly persist in assumptions, that is also fine or I realise its the best you
can do.

Your claims about your linguistic abilities sound false. Do you think people are going to believe you?

What other people think is also of no consequence to me, why should i care what they think, they are in no position to verify what i know and what i do not know

Isn't this the whole point of what I have been saying?

Originally posted by FMF
Your claims about your linguistic abilities sound false. Do you think people are going to believe you?

what is it about, i don't care what other people think that you fail to understand? Lets ask you, what is it about Urdu i do not understand, you have made the claim, on what basis are you saying that i cannot read and write it?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Then why don't you make reference to the points I made initially to RJH, concerning
John 1:1, if you know anything about it.

The issue is if you don't have the linguistic abilities you claim to have, then you do not have credibility when you comment on "spiritual matters' from a linguistic point of view, which means you are posting in bad faith when you try to smack down fellow posters on this premise.

Originally posted by FMF
Your claims about your linguistic abilities sound false. Do you think people are going to believe you?

[b]What other people think is also of no consequence to me, why should i care what they think, they are in no position to verify what i know and what i do not know

Isn't this the whole point of what I have been saying?[/b]

then if there is no way to verify it, how are we to account for your disbelief, other than
your cynicism, after all, you have provided no evidence for your claims nor can you,
therefore, by the same token, whoever believes you will believe you anyway and it is
none of my concern and is of little consequence either way. as for me, i could not care
less.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Lets ask you, what is it about Urdu i do not understand, you have made the claim, on what basis are you saying that i cannot read and write it?

How many years have you studied Urdu formally? Were you actually in Pakistan for only two years? Are you fluent enough to enter into biblical discourse with people who speak no English?