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Originally posted by @eladar
You pray each day, but that is no guarantee. All you end up doing with your prayers is convince yourself that your beliefs are in line with God.

Who needs a Bible when one can pray to have your beliefs aline with God?
You didn't answer my question about the Spirit of God, are you going to?

Nothing I have said is against what scripture says, it actually is in line with it. God has
made promises, and done things for us, out of love for us. Without the scripture how
would we ever know?

Please answer my question concerning the Spirit of God.

In case you missed it:

2 Peter 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2 Corinthians 1:22
Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

If you are a son of God, has this happen to you?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You didn't answer my question about the Spirit of God, are you going to?

Nothing I have said is against what scripture says, it actually is in line with it. God has
made promises, and done things for us, out of love for us. Without the scripture how
would we ever know?

Please answer my question concerning the Spirit of God.
There is no guarantee that the spirit within you is of God. If it is not and is a spirit of deception then you would be deceived when you claim to be following the Bible.

What has been a demonstrated as a fact according to the Bible?

Judas was chosen by Jesus to be one of the 12.

Jesus knew that Judas would betray him.

Jesus predicted Judas' betrayal before it happened.

Jesus gave bread to Judas, upon receiving that bread Satan entered Judas' heart after which Judas carried out the betrayal.

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Originally posted by @eladar
There is no guarantee that the spirit within you is of God. If it is not and is a spirit of deception then you would be deceived when you claim to be following the Bible.

What has been a demonstrated as a fact according to the Bible?

Judas was chosen by Jesus to be one of the 12.

Jesus knew that Judas would betray him.

Jesus predicted Judas' be ...[text shortened]... upon receiving that bread Satan entered Judas' heart after which Judas carried out the betrayal.
So you think when we ask God to be the Lord of our life, that He will give some that ask
Him to be their Lord and Savior a demon instead of God's Spirit? You really do not trust
God's Word do you?

Luke 11: 9-13
And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be
opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the
one who knocks it will be opened. What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will
instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If
you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will
the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

Judas betrayed Jesus before Jesus' death what the 12 had before that is not the same
thing they had after Jesus died and rose from the dead. The Holy Spirit now indwells
within the church of God, before Jesus said it is finished that was not the case. You are
comparing applies and oranges, Judas didn't have what God offers to His children now.

The answer to my question to you is what, you don't have God's Spirit, or you do?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
So you think when we ask God to be the Lord of our life, that He will give some that ask
Him to be their Lord and Savior a demon instead of God's Spirit? You really do not trust
God's Word do you?

Luke 11: 9-13
And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be
opened to you. For everyone who asks recei ...[text shortened]... ildren now.

The answer to my question to you is what, you don't have God's Spirit, or you do?
I think that some who believe they are asking God are actually asking Satan.

The God of universal acceptance is actually Satan. The God of inclusion is Satan. The God of tolerating homosexuality as good is Satan. Even if people call Satan by the name Jesus, it is still Satan.

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Originally posted by @eladar
I think that some who believe they are asking God are actually asking Satan.

The God of universal acceptance is actually Satan. The God of inclusion is Satan. The God of tolerating homosexuality as good is Satan. Even if people call Satan by the name Jesus, it is still Satan.
People can be confused not God. So do you believe someone can ask Jesus to come into their lives and instead of Jesus, Satan is going to take them instead?

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Originally posted by @eladar
I think that some who believe they are asking God are actually asking Satan.

The God of universal acceptance is actually Satan. The God of inclusion is Satan. The God of tolerating homosexuality as good is Satan. Even if people call Satan by the name Jesus, it is still Satan.
You and God, is still the question if you have received God's Holy Spirit or not?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You and God, is still the question if you have received God's Holy Spirit or not?
The question is which Spirit is within you. Is it of God or Satan?

The Spirit of Satan, demons, claim to be of God, but are not. If you accept one of these spirits into your heart in the name of Jesus you have simply accepted a lie into your heart. Every time you believe you are praying to God you are just praying to Satan.

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Originally posted by @eladar
The question is which Spirit is within you. Is it of God or Satan?

The Spirit of Satan, demons, claim to be of God, but are not. If you accept one of these spirits into your heart in the name of Jesus you have simply accepted a lie into your heart. Every time you believe you are praying to God you are just praying to Satan.
So you think Jesus is a liar, because of the scripture from Luke I quoted you? I have asked you do you have the Spirit of God in you over and over. You have deflected every time even calling Jesus a liar. Is that why you have such a hard telling apart God and Satan since you think both lie?

I will give you a hint God never lies, and being Spirit filled by God is not getting a spiritual being like an angel, instead God's Spirit.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
So you think Jesus is a liar, because of the scripture from Luke I quoted you? I have asked you do you have the Spirit of God in you over and over. You have deflected every time even calling Jesus a liar. Is that why you have such a hard telling apart God and Satan since you think both lie?

I will give you a hint God never lies, and being Spirit filled by God is not getting a spiritual being like an angel, instead God's Spirit.
Where does Jesus state that there are no false prophets claiming to be of God but are not?

You are the liar, not Jesus.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Where does Jesus state that there are no false prophets claiming to be of God but are not?

You are the liar, not Jesus.
What in the world are you talking about? We are talking about God giving us His Spirit! Who said anything about someone claiming to be God?

Do you have God's Spirit or not?

You do know God doesn't lie right?
Satan lies, and is the father of lies!

You know we can trust God?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
What in the world are you talking about? We are talking about God giving us His Spirit! Who said anything about someone claiming to be God?

Do you have God's Spirit or not?

You do know God doesn't lie right?
Satan lies, and is the father of lies!

You know we can trust God?
Who is us? All people?

That is not in the Bible.

God gives his people the holy spirit. If you welcome a false spirit into your heart, it is not the holy spirit no matter how much you believe it is.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Who is us? All people?

That is not in the Bible.

God gives his people the holy spirit. If you welcome a false spirit into your heart, it is not the holy spirit no matter how much you believe it is.
You must purposefully be working your butt off trying to avoid staying on topic and push it off to anything else. Trusting God at His Word must scare the crap out of you.

You did read those verses about God giving those who belong to Him His Spirit, and if you don't have God's Spirit you do not belong to Him? I already quoted you the scripture!

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You must purposefully be working your butt off trying to avoid staying on topic and push it off to anything else. Trusting God at His Word must scare the crap out of you.

You did read those verses about God giving those who belong to Him His Spirit, and if you don't have God's Spirit you do not belong to Him? I already quoted you the scripture!
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

True and False Disciples
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

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Originally posted by @eladar
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear go ...[text shortened]... ny miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Jesus tells us that many will be deceived. Many people will believe they have the holy spirit, but did not.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Jesus tells us that many will be deceived. Many people will believe they have the holy spirit, but did not.
Adding to scripture not healthy.

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