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Jesus Chose Judas

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I agree with Jesus.
That he taught in parables so that the people listen would not be saved? That is what he said.

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Originally posted by @eladar
That he taught in parables so that the people listen would not be saved? That is what he said.
I went over that, you didn't want to hear it.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I went over that, you didn't want to hear it.
You are avoiding it and hoping to be like a politician and get away with it.

Do you agree with Jesus when he said he taught in parables so he wouldn't have to heal certain people who might repent?

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Originally posted by @eladar
You are avoiding it and hoping to be like a politician and get away with it.

Do you agree with Jesus when he said he taught in parables so he wouldn't have to heal certain people who might repent?
Have to heal?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Have to heal?
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You are under the assumption I accept everyone who claims to be a Christian is. I don't! So I don't accept Hitler was one.
So you think Hitler was a catholic atheist? Would god stay behind and watch his deeds if he wasn't a christian? Or if he was? Perhaps he took Jesus in his heart the moment before he killed himself? Then heaven would harbour a massmurderer. Not a place I would like to visit. I think I stay a non-christian.

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Originally posted by @fabianfnas
So you think Hitler was a catholic atheist? Would god stay behind and watch his deeds if he wasn't a christian? Or if he was? Perhaps he took Jesus in his heart the moment before he killed himself? Then heaven would harbour a massmurderer. Not a place I would like to visit. I think I stay a non-christian.
Hitler was a pagan who embraced the Germanic pantheon.

Many in Finland think Hitler wasn't that bad.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them
You changed up on me my response would be the same. It is not that He doesn't want to save or heal, He is not going to do anything against the way it was set up.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You changed up on me my response would be the same. It is not that He doesn't want to save or heal, He is not going to do anything against the way it was set up.
So it was set up by God that those people would not be saved?

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Originally posted by @eladar
So it was set up by God that those people would not be saved?
Why did Jesus come here in the first place, He didn't have to do anything for sinners to remain sinners?

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Originally posted by @eladar
Hitler was a pagan who embraced the Germanic pantheon.

Many in Finland think Hitler wasn't that bad.
He was catholic. And you don't know what he did the last minute to save his soul.
Your opinion of what religion he had has no importance, it's your opinion, it's not a fact.

But you proved to me that you divide christians in A-christians and B-christians, and worse, you take the role of god of deciding who is christian and who is not. Only he can do that, not you.

So you are only one who divide christian people in A and B. I believe this is very general among christian people.

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Originally posted by @fabianfnas
He was catholic. And you don't know what he did the last minute to save his soul.
Your opinion of what religion he had has no importance, it's your opinion, it's not a fact.

But you proved to me that you divide christians in A-christians and B-christians, and worse, you take the role of god of deciding who is christian and who is not. Only he can do ...[text shortened]... e who divide christian people in A and B. I believe this is very general among christian people.
Hitler was a Catholic like FMF was a Christian.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Why did Jesus come here in the first place, He didn't have to do anything for sinners to remain sinners?
He came to fulfill God's plan.

Do you agree then that it was God's plan for some of those who heard only parables should not be saved?

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Jesus choosing Judas to be part of the 12 must also have been part of God's plan.

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Originally posted by @eladar
He came to fulfill God's plan.

Do you agree then that it was God's plan for some of those who heard only parables should not be saved?
I agree He spoke in parables to hide specific truth, but He came for the lost. For reasons you do not know God did and didn't do somethings. You are latching on to tidbits and missing the big picture.

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