Jesus Lied . For The Bible Tells Me So .

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please take note of this Dive. If Suzianne is indeed delusional, FMF thinks you share the same delusion.

Faith that such beings as angels exist and telling a story about meeting them and communicating with them are two quite different levels of delusion, I'd say.

@fmf said
I didn't dodge it. If he believes that angels are real, then I think it is a delusion.

Did I miss you telling Dive this when he said he believed in angels? (In the other current thread).

@fmf said
Either way, from my perspective, if he believes that angels are real or he believes he has interacted with them - both - are delusional beliefs.

I wonder how Dive will respond to this revelation...

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please take note of this Dive. If Suzianne is indeed delusional, FMF thinks you share the same delusion.

Has divegeester claimed to have met angels? I don't think he has. How does he "share the same delusion" with Suzianne? Aren't the two delusions different in substance?

@fmf said
But I am in a discourse with you - not a theist - and you, like me, believe that angels don't exist.

Theists are reading these exchanges, where you are referring to them as delusional.

@fmf said
Faith that such beings as angels exist and telling a story about meeting them and communicating with them are two quite different levels of delusion, I'd say.

But if Dive (believing as he does that angels exist) went on to have, what he believed was an angelical encounter, should he refrain from telling you in fear of being labelled delusional?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I wonder how Dive will respond to this revelation...

divesgeester is a close friend and has been one for well over a decade. We have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours talking about faith - him with his believer's perspective, and me with my ex-believer's perspective. Do you think I should "have his back" by saying things to you that I do not believe to be true?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But if Dive (believing as he does that angels exist) went on to have, what he believed was an angelical encounter, should he refrain from telling you in fear of being labelled delusional?

No, he shouldn't refrain.

@fmf said
divesgeester is a close friend

......for now....

@fmf said
No, he shouldn't refrain.

But you would, for consistencies sake, call him delusional?


Edit: A bad day in the office for FMF.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Theists are reading these exchanges, where you are referring to them as delusional.

Yes. But, when I am in a discussion with a theist about their religious beliefs, I will not describe them as "fairy tales" or "delusions" because it serves no good purpose. If, however, they say that they met Jesus on the street and they talked to each other, the word delusion will become appropriate.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But you would, for consistencies sake, call him delusional?

Why do you keep asking this question over and over again? I've already said yes several times.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
A bad day in the office for FMF.

How so?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
......for now....

Do you have close friendships that could be sunk by different perspectives like those he and I have?

@fmf said
Why do you keep asking this question over and over again? I've already said yes several times.

You never use repetition yourself of course...