Jesus Lied . For The Bible Tells Me So .

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Perhaps it teaches that a lie, said to protect others (his followers) is not a sin.

Well that philosophy would certainly explain some of your recent posting.

@rajk999 said
This is an important interpretation of that passage, and one which is also supported by Christ who likened the Kingdom of God as leaven which spreads slowly, or as a mustard seed which starts small and spreads into a big tree. The funny thing is that there are contradictory passages which suggest that the Kingdom of God comes suddenly on people and catch them unawares. Here ...[text shortened]... , Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20-21 KJV) [/i]

From the Gospel of Thomas, published as part of the Nag Hammadi Library:

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These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

...

51. His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"

He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it."

...

113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."


>>

Source:
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

@divegeester said
Well that philosophy would certainly explain some of your recent posting.

Oh dear, someone’s been brooding.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Oh dear, someone’s been brooding.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Oh dear, someone’s been brooding.

Where’s you’re flakey “I find I’m happier when I trust people” now, Ghost of a Duke?

@divegeester said
Where’s you’re flakey “I find I’m happier when I trust people” now, Ghost of a Duke?

Where's your 'uncanny' superpower that allows you to confidently and unapologetically accuse people of lying?

@kellyjay said
Quote please

I never understand this kind of reply from you. The OP references a well known passage and yet you respond as though completely unaware of it. (And still haven't addressed).

@caissad4 said
Jesus said that there were people who would be alive when he returned . The people he was referring to were those who were listening to him as he spoke those words . Either he was a liar or there are some 2000 year old people still around .

Jesus Lied. For The Bible Tells Me So.

Jesus often spoke using allegory and parable, which often makes literal interpretation inaccurate. You might wish to bear his in mind before boldly proclaiming Jesus to be a liar.

@mchill said

Jesus often spoke using allegory and parable, which often makes literal interpretation inaccurate. You might wish to bear his in mind before boldly proclaiming Jesus to be a liar.

Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16: 27/28).

That's the best you have to offer, allegory or parable?


'Truly I tell you' - Jesus is emphasising the factual truth of what he is saying.
'Some of you who are standing here' - A literal statement directed at the people right there in front of him. Where is the allegory? Where is the parable?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16: 27/28).

That's the best you have to offer, allegory or parable?


'Truly I tell you' - Jesus is emphasising the factual truth of what he is saying.
'Some of you who are standing here' - A literal statement directed at the people right there in front of him. Where is the allegory? Where is the parable?

Sounds well dodgy if you ask me, maybe he just got his timing wrong, or maybe it was misinterpretation, or human error, in which case who really knows which bits of the Bible to believe?

@indonesia-phil said
Sounds well dodgy if you ask me, maybe he just got his timing wrong, or maybe it was misinterpretation, or human error, in which case who really knows which bits of the Bible to believe?

I doubt Mchill will return to defend his tepid explanation.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Where's your 'uncanny' superpower that allows you to confidently and unapologetically accuse people of lying?

“Superpower”

What are trying to conflate now?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16: 27/28).

That's the best you have to offer, allegory or parable?


'Truly I tell you' - Jesus is emphasising the factual truth of what he is saying.
'Some of you who are standing here' - A literal statement directed at the people right there in front of him. Where is the allegory? Where is the parable?

Do you think Jesus was delusional when he made these claims about himself?

@divegeester said
Do you think Jesus was delusional when he made these claims about himself?

I have no idea about his mind set or motivations. I never met the fellow.

@divegeester said
“Superpower”

What are trying to conflate now?

I vividly recollect you saying you had an uncanny superpower. (In no way did I add any embellishments).