Let's review 'intolerance'

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I think it's fine to try to persuade homosexuals to stop being gay; I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.

Do you mean by your statement that it's fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality? Since you spoke of fining and imprisonment, that's the conclusion I've drawn.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I think we're on the same side of this, BDP. I'm arguing that since nobody tries to legislate every single moral issue, there are some that shouldn't be legislated. I don't think your examples invalidate my point; for example, adulterly laws didn't apply to a girlfriend, they applied to a spouse.

Although those who stayed with their girlfriend long enough found themselves stamped as husband and wife by common law. Thus, any adultery law would also apply to them.

Although adultery laws have been toned down, divorce law and divorce courts still consider the concept of 'fault' when dividing the marital assets.

In short, I see very few moral principles that are not at least partially mentioned in our laws.

Originally posted by Nyxie
Who you are attracted to is not bahaviour. It is a part of who you are.

Let's say you're a guy and you're attracted to women, we would call you heterosexual. You have sex with a woman, is it this action that makes you heterosexual? Or were you this way before you had sex with her? If you stop having sex with women, are you no longer heterosexual?

Nyxie

Nope, and I not a homosexual either. I'm just a man period, I'm
not attempting to define myself by my sexual desires or actions,
that is what you are doing. I'm against giving minority status because
of someone's sexual tastes or passions, since it isn't done for all
sexual desires and passions it shouldn't be done for any. We do not
call some people of color a minority while others that are darker or
lighter shades of color are denied minority status, except all whites.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Nope, and I not a homosexual either. I'm just a man period, I'm
not attempting to define myself by my sexual desires or actions,
that is what you are doing. I'm against giving minority status because
of someone's sexual tastes or passions, since it isn't done for all
sexual desires and passions it shouldn't be done for any. We do not
call some pe ...[text shortened]... t are darker or
lighter shades of color are denied minority status, except all whites.
Kelly

You've been on this kick for a while and it's still BS. People choose their religion; would it be alright to discriminate against Jews or Muslims or Baptists because while they might be a minority, they choose to be so?

Originally posted by eagles54
Do you mean by your statement that it's fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality? Since you spoke of fining and imprisonment, that's the conclusion I've drawn.

I wrote

I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.

This suggests that it's not fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality.

It is indeed my view that the state should not dissuade homosexuality.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I wrote

[b] I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.

This suggests that it's not fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality.

It is indeed my view that the state should not dissuade homosexuality.[/b]

I apologize for reading your post incorrectly.

Originally posted by Darfius
You're twisting Jesus into a lovable, "hey, feel free to disgrace my name everyday and I'll let everyone in, come on in Hitler, the clouds are fine" kind of Jesus.

What if Hitler found and accepted Jesus just before his last breath. He WOULD be saved and be invited in then, wouldn't he?

D

Originally posted by Ragnorak
What if Hitler found and accepted Jesus just before his last breath. He WOULD be saved and be invited in then, wouldn't he?

D

I think John 3:16 covers that quite well. Using that passage I would say the answer was yes.

Nyxie

Originally posted by Ragnorak
What if Hitler found and accepted Jesus just before his last breath. He WOULD be saved and be invited in then, wouldn't he?

D

Yes, but unfortunately he killed himself, so that didn't happen.

Originally posted by Darfius
Yes, but unfortunately he killed himself, so that didn't happen.

I'm sure holocaust survivors would find your answer very disturbing.

One human can attempt to systematically destroy races of human beings yet no matter, with a change of heart before death a path is cleared to eternal bliss alongside God?

Originally posted by eagles54
I'm sure holocaust survivors would find your answer very disturbing.

One human can attempt to systematically destroy races of human beings yet no matter, with a change of heart before death a path is cleared to eternal bliss alongside God?

Remember, it didn't happen. It wasn't even a possibility, really. It takes a change of heart, not a fear of death.

But if he had, then yes, God forgives all.

Originally posted by Darfius
Remember, it didn't happen. It wasn't even a possibility, really.

What didn't happen?

Originally posted by eagles54
What didn't happen?

Hitler didn't come to Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Darfius
But if he had, then yes, God forgives all.

Then your god is more concerned with his ego being pumped than justice?

What a load...

Originally posted by eagles54
Then your god is more concerned with his ego being pumped than justice?

What a load...

His ego? That's a display of love.