16 Mar 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungDo you mean by your statement that it's fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality? Since you spoke of fining and imprisonment, that's the conclusion I've drawn.
I think it's fine to try to persuade homosexuals to stop being gay; I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAlthough those who stayed with their girlfriend long enough found themselves stamped as husband and wife by common law. Thus, any adultery law would also apply to them.
I think we're on the same side of this, BDP. I'm arguing that since nobody tries to legislate every single moral issue, there are some that shouldn't be legislated. I don't think your examples invalidate my point; for example, adulterly laws didn't apply to a girlfriend, they applied to a spouse.
Although adultery laws have been toned down, divorce law and divorce courts still consider the concept of 'fault' when dividing the marital assets.
In short, I see very few moral principles that are not at least partially mentioned in our laws.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by NyxieNope, and I not a homosexual either. I'm just a man period, I'm
Who you are attracted to is not bahaviour. It is a part of who you are.
Let's say you're a guy and you're attracted to women, we would call you heterosexual. You have sex with a woman, is it this action that makes you heterosexual? Or were you this way before you had sex with her? If you stop having sex with women, are you no longer heterosexual?
Nyxie
not attempting to define myself by my sexual desires or actions,
that is what you are doing. I'm against giving minority status because
of someone's sexual tastes or passions, since it isn't done for all
sexual desires and passions it shouldn't be done for any. We do not
call some people of color a minority while others that are darker or
lighter shades of color are denied minority status, except all whites.
Kelly
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by KellyJayYou've been on this kick for a while and it's still BS. People choose their religion; would it be alright to discriminate against Jews or Muslims or Baptists because while they might be a minority, they choose to be so?
Nope, and I not a homosexual either. I'm just a man period, I'm
not attempting to define myself by my sexual desires or actions,
that is what you are doing. I'm against giving minority status because
of someone's sexual tastes or passions, since it isn't done for all
sexual desires and passions it shouldn't be done for any. We do not
call some pe ...[text shortened]... t are darker or
lighter shades of color are denied minority status, except all whites.
Kelly
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by eagles54I wrote
Do you mean by your statement that it's fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality? Since you spoke of fining and imprisonment, that's the conclusion I've drawn.
I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.
This suggests that it's not fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality.
It is indeed my view that the state should not dissuade homosexuality.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI apologize for reading your post incorrectly.
I wrote
[b] I don't think it's fine to imprison or fine them for making the choice to have sex with someone of the same gender.
This suggests that it's not fine for the state to dissuade homosexuality.
It is indeed my view that the state should not dissuade homosexuality.[/b]
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusWhat if Hitler found and accepted Jesus just before his last breath. He WOULD be saved and be invited in then, wouldn't he?
You're twisting Jesus into a lovable, "hey, feel free to disgrace my name everyday and I'll let everyone in, come on in Hitler, the clouds are fine" kind of Jesus.
D
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusI'm sure holocaust survivors would find your answer very disturbing.
Yes, but unfortunately he killed himself, so that didn't happen.
One human can attempt to systematically destroy races of human beings yet no matter, with a change of heart before death a path is cleared to eternal bliss alongside God?
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by eagles54Remember, it didn't happen. It wasn't even a possibility, really. It takes a change of heart, not a fear of death.
I'm sure holocaust survivors would find your answer very disturbing.
One human can attempt to systematically destroy races of human beings yet no matter, with a change of heart before death a path is cleared to eternal bliss alongside God?
But if he had, then yes, God forgives all.