Let's review 'intolerance'

Originally posted by Darfius
His ego? That's a display of love.

But if one of Hitler's victims doesn't take Jesus as his/her savior, well, on top of being brutally murdered with all dignity stripped from them, they're in hell to boot?

Where's the love being displayed?

Originally posted by eagles54
But if one of Hitler's victims doesn't take Jesus as his/her savior, well, on top of being brutally murdered with all dignity stripped from them, they're in hell to boot?

Where's the love being displayed?

How about the extra two thousand years the Jews had to prepare for Jesus? That's pretty loving. Is it God's fault they deny Him?

Originally posted by Darfius
How about the extra two thousand years the Jews had to prepare for Jesus? That's pretty loving. Is it God's fault they deny Him?

Jews deny God?

When did that happen?

Originally posted by eagles54
Jews deny God?

When did that happen?

Jesus Christ is God.

Originally posted by Darfius
Jesus Christ is God.

Why is your view more vaild than the Jewish view that Jesus was not God?

Originally posted by eagles54
Why is your view more vaild than the Jewish view that Jesus was not God?

JESUS CHRIST is spoken about many times in The Old Testament. When CHRIST came HE opened the Old Testament to the Jewish teachers, and spoke those Scriptures that, spoke of Himself. But the Jewish teachers were so in tune with the law.That they could not see the grace of GOD. They still donot understand that Grace supersedes the Law.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
JESUS CHRIST is spoken about many times in The Old Testament. When CHRIST came HE opened the Old Testament to the Jewish teachers, and spoke those Scriptures that, spoke of Himself. But the Jewish teachers were so in tune with the law.That they could not see the grace of GOD. They still donot understand that Grace supersedes the Law.

Thank you for your input, but my question was specifically directed to Darfius since he made the comment I was questioning.

Besides, the OT reference is to Yeshua, a person who you take as the historical Jesus on faith. That is fine. I would ask you as well, why is your view that Jesus is God more valid than the Jews' insistence that he is not God? Faith in and of itself does not make it so.

Originally posted by eagles54
Thank you for your input, but my question was specifically directed to Darfius since he made the comment I was questioning.

Besides, the OT reference is to Yeshua, a person who you take as the historical Jesus on faith. That is fine. I would ask you as well, why is your view that Jesus is God more valid than the Jews' insistence that he is not God? Faith in and of itself does not make it so.

The words that were spoken of HIM in the Old Testament, make it true. The Jews were looking for someone,to free them from Roman government rule.There are well over I believe 300+ references to YASHUA in The Old Testament. They all point to and have been fullfiled by CHRIST. Have you had the opportunity to go through them, and see for yourself.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
The words that were spoken of HIM in the Old Testament, make it true.

No, it does not make it true. I respect your faith that holds those words as true, but your faith does not necessarily make it so.

Originally posted by eagles54
No, it does not make it true. I respect your faith that holds those words as true, but your faith does not necessarily make it so.

Our faith does not make it the truth. It is the truth that makes our faith.

In the OT you have prophecies such as "He will be pierced for our transgressions." and "They will cast lots for His clothes." and "Not a bone on Him will be broken."

Jesus was pierced in the heart by the Roman soldier.
The soldiers cast lots for His clothes.
Instead of breaking His legs, the Roman soldier stabbed Him.

I will grant you that it is a leap of faith to believe that those men boldly preached and died for the Truth, but once you make it, Jesus takes over in your heart.

Originally posted by Darfius
Our faith does not make it the truth. It is the truth that makes our faith.

In the OT you have prophecies such as "He will be pierced for our transgressions." and "They will cast lots for His clothes." and "Not a bone on Him will be broken."

Jesus was pierced in the heart by the Roman soldier.
The soldiers cast lots for His clothes.
Instea ...[text shortened]... en boldly preached and died for the Truth, but once you make it, Jesus takes over in your heart.

Jesus was stabbed in the heart? I don't remember reading this in the Bible.

Nyxie

Originally posted by Nyxie
Jesus was stabbed in the heart? I don't remember reading this in the Bible.

Nyxie

John 19:34

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Originally posted by Darfius
John 19:34

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

I don't think "side" is the same as "heart".

Nyxie

Originally posted by Darfius
Our faith does not make it the truth. It is the truth that makes our faith.

And forthwith came there out circular logic.

Originally posted by Nyxie
I don't think "side" is the same as "heart".

Nyxie

If a roman soldier let a victim come down off the cross alive, he was crucified himself.

Also, it had to be the heart because water come out of the wound. What looked like water had formed a protective layer around Jesus' heart from the blood loss He suffered in the flogging.