@fmf saidJust so we are clear, an illness is something that is not healthy, not as it should be
"Most violence is caused by mental illness".
If that statement were to be true, what would the implications be for the stance of religious people who assert that the level of violence in society is caused by moral decline?
so when you are suggesting a mental illness by evidence of violence you are saying
that the lack of violence is a sign of a healthy mind? There should be no violence
due to a healthy mind, and any mind that causes violence is unhealthy.
Does this violence according to you have to be physical, could it be mental as well?
11 Jun 22
@kellyjay saidI don't know what you are on about.
Just so we are clear, an illness is something that is not healthy, not as it should be
so when you are suggesting a mental illness by evidence of violence you are saying
that the lack of violence is a sign of a healthy mind? There should be no violence
due to a healthy mind, and any mind that causes violence is unhealthy.
11 Jun 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI started the thread after I heard a right-wing commentator make the ridiculous claim in the wake of one of the recent mass shootings.
I get that this thread was based on a hypothetical question, but putting that question in quotation marks (implying somebody had actually said it) was misguided, especially as mental health is already greatly stigmatized and misunderstood.
@fmf saidSimply asking if one is the result of the other so that to see one assumes the other
I don't know what you are on about.
is only a result of the other? To look for that cause is to reason to assume that one
comes from the other, so without the one, we see a healthier mind, one not given
to that illness.
11 Jun 22
@kellyjay saidWhat are you talking about? "One" and "the other"?
Simply asking if one is the result of the other so that to see one assumes the other
is only a result of the other? To look for that cause is to reason to assume that one
comes from the other, so without the one, we see a healthier mind, one not given
to that illness.
@fmf saidI'm sure you don't, as long as you don't have to come to some definitive meaning
Bow out if you wish. I don't have any trouble with the topic. You are sometimes so inarticulate that you are incoherent.
behind your words, you can say whatever you will; it will not matter, after all; all
you are doing is speculating.