06 Dec 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobIs this the total summation of your spirituality, to point out flaws in others, well good luck to you with that, i really hope it works out well for you,
That's what Galveston said in the thread where he stated that JW literature was inspired like the Bible. Your perceptions are the same, it was a valiant attempt Rob but the contradiction remains.
06 Dec 12
Originally posted by stellspalfieWhy on earth would anyone try to suggest that a single question from somebody might represent "the total summation of their spirituality", or "the total summation" of anything else about them, for that matter? It's got to be one of the flimsiest attempted put downs I've seen on here for a while. 😵
and then stuffed with straw-men and drizzled in a light reductio ad absurdum oil. then put under an illogical grill and served with a side of bulls***t.
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06 Dec 12
Originally posted by FMFi saw this yesterday, it pretty much sums up your debate with galveston.
Why on earth would anyone try to suggest that a single question from somebody might represent "the total summation of their spirituality", or "the total summation" of anything else about them, for that matter? It's got to be one of the flimsiest attempted put downs I've seen on here for a while. 😵
http://jonchanchewscud.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/index_htm_txt_religionquests1.gif
06 Dec 12
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Originally posted by FMFI liken it to the way someone acts when they're trying to defend, say, a hoover they didn't even need/want and were talked into paying for it by some dodgy salesman at over 20 times its real value and a tie-in to a yearly service agreement.
Why on earth would anyone try to suggest that a single question from somebody might represent "the total summation of their spirituality", or "the total summation" of anything else about them, for that matter? It's got to be one of the flimsiest attempted put downs I've seen on here for a while. 😵
speaking from experience - it wasn\'t me that got scammed though
For all the arguments anyone else makes that they have wasted/ are wasting their money, that they were scammed, that they should cut their losses and walk away, etc... they have to (for the sake of their own dignity) defend their decision to throw their cash away and parrot back the same flimsy sales patter that got them the shaft in the first place.
Robbie and Galveston have been scammed not only with their money (I expect), but more importantly their time! Many years of their lives have been wasted holding onto a worthless ticket for some magic fairground in the sky and they'll be damned if they're going to let anyone convince them how foolish they have been.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieOn the contrary as PK pointed out Galveston candidly answered all his question so
i saw this yesterday, it pretty much sums up your debate with galveston.
http://jonchanchewscud.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/index_htm_txt_religionquests1.gif
either he is lying or your caricature is a gross misrepresentation, which is it? again i
myself asked a number of questions which were ignored, for example, where in fact
did the idea that one who is a recipient of Holy spirit should be viewed as infallible
originate from, answers nil. This leads me to conclude that you are deliberately
misrepresenting the position of the users in the forum because of a deeply
prejudiced point of view with regard to religions on a whole and yet you have no
alternative to offer. It sums up the position of the atheist and all they can achieve is
whittling away at the faith of those who do not share their emptiness and who have
not limited their search for truth to unintelligent agencies. Again i hope it works out
for you, it really appears to be the best you can achieve.
In retrospect i really should not be that surprised for both Galveston and myself,
perhaps through innocence or a willingness to impart pure motives to others have
forgotten the words of the Christ,
(Matthew 7:6) . . .“Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls
before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around
and rip you open.
thank you for reminding me.
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Originally posted by Agergdo you often make assertions about which you have little knowledge, as serious
I liken it to the way someone acts when they're trying to defend, say, a hoover they didn't even need/want and were talked into paying for it by some dodgy salesman at over 20 times its real value and a tie-in to a yearly service agreement.[hidden]speaking from experience - it wasn\'t me that got scammed though[/hidden]For all the arguments anyone else makes t ...[text shortened]... they'll be damned if they're going to let anyone convince them how foolish they have been.
assertions as this? lets look at it,
Robbie and Galveston have been scammed not only with their money (I expect),
firstly you assert that we have been scammed, yet you don't say what of, then you
mention money, not understanding that I am under no obligation to give money to
anyone, this leads me to the inevitable conclusion Agers that you have not the
slightest idea what you are talking about, I belong to a world wide organization that
has done and continues to do untold good, to help people in all sorts of difficulties
and here you are with your empty utterances and your empty vision attempting to
point out our flaws, what the heck is it with you people? You have done nothing! and
yet proceed to state how others are in a defrauded state than you? You don't know
anything about it Agers, your statement betray a lack of not only knowledge but
experience and are devoid of the slightest reasoning other than your own self
certified opinions, Its like a balloon filled with hot air, yours. For goodness sake at
least learn to talk about things you understand.
I am happier than you can imagine, i have a beautiful wife, a beautiful family, loving
friends, I am my own boss, i am materially and spiritually prospering and here you
are telling me that I have been scammed, tell me what it is I have been scammed
out of Agers, let the forum know your arcana and how it has made you more
knowledgeable than me? less likely to be scammed as you say.
06 Dec 12
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI wondered how long it would take for the 'is this the total summation of your spirituality' defence ro rear it's head. We've had the name calling, now this gem and next i'll be threatened with the 'magic ignore button' before being alerted to the moderators.
Is this the total summation of your spirituality, to point out flaws in others, well good luck to you with that, i really hope it works out well for you,
This is nothing more than a classic case of being able to dish it out but not take it back. For as long as i have been on this forum you have been -
1. Pointing out flaws in those who subscribe to the trinity and other beliefs of so called nominal Christians.
2. Pointing out what you perceive to be flaws in evolutionary theory.
3. Pointing out what you perceive to be flaws in those who subscribe to materialism or naturalism.
If you dish it out then you've got to take it back. What's good for the goose is good for the gander Rob. To use that phrase your good self likes to bandy around -
'Suck it up fatboy, it's time to take your medicine!!'
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Originally posted by Proper KnobNot take what? that there is a difference of opinion between I and Galveston, oh dear,
I wondered how long it would take for the 'is this the total summation of your spirituality' defence ro rear it's head. We've had the name calling, now this gem and next i'll be threatened with the 'magic ignore button' before being alerted to the moderators.
This is nothing more than a classic case of being able to dish it out but no take it back. f likes to bandy around -
'Suck it up fatboy, it's time to take your medicine!!'
call the fez the sky is falling, is this the best you have achieved, the real summation of
all your powers of reasoning? that there is a difference of opinion between i and
Galveston on whether the literature is 'inspired', tell the forum what your spirituality
has led you to conclude from your finding this great faith destroying and devastating
finding, you were asked numerous questions which you have ignored, lets see you
answer them now, what does it prove?
06 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere's that peculiar, grasping straw man again!
Not take what? that there is a difference of opinion between I an Galveston, oh dear,
call the fez the sky is falling, is this the best you have achieved, the real summation of
all your powers of reasoning?
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Originally posted by Proper Knobhere is a quotation taken from the watchtower itself, is it saying that the watchtower
I wondered how long it would take for the 'is this the total summation of your spirituality' defence ro rear it's head. We've had the name calling, now this gem and next i'll be threatened with the 'magic ignore button' before being alerted to the moderators.
This is nothing more than a classic case of being able to dish it out but not take it back. f likes to bandy around -
'Suck it up fatboy, it's time to take your medicine!!'
writers are inspired or not,
For over a century, this subject has periodically been discussed in The Watchtower.
Christ’s brothers surely demonstrate their loving concern for our spiritual welfare by
publishing articles on this and other inspired counsel. Paying attention to these
reminders is one way to show that we are following our perfect Leader, Jesus Christ.
and
Hence, when we distribute Bible-based literature, we are telling what the tongue of
inspired holy men has already said.
06 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's a massive contradiction, though robbie. It gets to the very heart of the credibility of both your claims and galveston75's claims about the role of divine inspiration and divine endorsement for your moralizing and pontificating. One says the magazines are not divinely inspired, the other says that they are divinely inspired in the same way the gospels were divinely inspired. So what does you or you organization have to say about divine inspiration? It just comes across like one of you or perhaps both of you are just making up stuff as you go along, and all the pouting you do comes across like sheer vanity.
that their is a difference of opinion between i and
Galveston on whether the literature is 'inspired', tell the forum what your spirituality has led you to conclude from your finding this great faith destroying and devastating finding, you were asked numerous questions which you have ignored, lets see you answer them now, what does it prove?