New Testament

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Not take what? that there is a difference of opinion between I and Galveston, oh dear,
call the fez the sky is falling, is this the best you have achieved, the real summation of
all your powers of reasoning? that there is a difference of opinion between i and
Galveston on whether the literature is 'inspired', tell the forum what your spiritual ...[text shortened]... numerous questions which you have ignored, lets see you
answer them now, what does it prove?

I answered this in a previous post, i don't see why i should keep repeating myself.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
here is a quotation taken from the watchtower itself, is it saying that the watchtower
writers are inspired or not,

For over a century, this subject has periodically been discussed in The Watchtower.
Christ’s brothers surely demonstrate their loving concern for our spiritual welfare by
publishing articles on this and other inspired counsel. ...[text shortened]... Bible-based literature, we are telling what the tongue of
inspired holy men has already said.

The writers of the Bible did not mention the League of Nations. Nor did they forbid blood transfusions. You have some cheek referring to the writing staff at the HQ of your organisation "inspired holy men". Just saying.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
here is a quotation taken from the watchtower itself, is it saying that the watchtower
writers are inspired or not,

For over a century, this subject has periodically been discussed in The Watchtower.
Christ’s brothers surely demonstrate their loving concern for our spiritual welfare by
publishing articles on this and other inspired counsel. ...[text shortened]... Bible-based literature, we are telling what the tongue of
inspired holy men has already said.

and this,

The Bible says: “Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are
crushed in spirit he saves.” (Psalm 34:18) Without a doubt, all who are “broken at
heart” or “crushed in spirit” can find encouragement and a hope for the future in the
Bible. Jehovah’s Witnesses distribute Bible-based literature to help those in need to
benefit from that divinely inspired source of comfort.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I answered this in a previous post, i don't see why i should keep repeating myself.

you have answered nothing, i have provided three direct quotations from the
watchtower, tell the forum whether the writers are claiming to be inspired or not.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
On the contrary as PK pointed out Galveston candidly answered all his question so
either he is lying or your caricature is a gross misrepresentation, which is it? again i
myself asked a number of questions which were ignored, for example, where in fact
did the idea that one who is a recipient of Holy spirit should be viewed as infallible
ori ...[text shortened]... trample them under their feet and turn around
and rip you open.

thank you for reminding me.

On the contrary as PK pointed out Galveston candidly answered all his question so

it may have escaped your notice but i was referring to the debate between fmf and glaveston, not pk and galveston. i thought by addressing my response to fmf this would be clear.

your caricature is a gross misrepresentation,

caricature- good word robbie, it was indeed caricature, used for comedic purposes. the essence of the joke, galveston complaining he was being asked too many questions.

a deeply
prejudiced point of view with regard to religions on a whole and yet you have no
alternative to offer. It sums up the position of the atheist and all they can achieve is

illogical - disbelief in a religion is not a form of prejudice.
illogical - from an athiest point of view their is no need to find an alternative to something that doesnt exist.


whittling away at the faith of those who do not share their emptiness and who have not limited their search for truth to unintelligent agencies.

whittling away - do you mean ask questions.
illogical - emptiness caused by lack of belief in god, evidence show a an atheist society functions equally if not better than a religious society. well being and mental health are not effected. where is this emptiness?
illogical - you have settled on one truth and one god, this has stopped your search completely.

matthew 7:6 -

nothing amazing about crap like that - look before you leap, a stich in time saves 9, a bird in the bush....blah blah. if i had to refer to ancient proverbs to make sure i was conducting myself correctly i would worry.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The Bible says: “Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are crushed in spirit he saves.” (Psalm 34:18) Without a doubt, all who are “broken at heart” or “crushed in spirit” can find encouragement and a hope for the future in the Bible. Jehovah’s Witnesses distribute Bible-based literature to help those in need to
benefit from that divinely inspired source of comfort.

Any religion or communal hobby or cult or social club or entity that gives one a sense of belonging can claim to help out the “broken at heart” or “crushed in spirit”. It doesn't make them "divinely inspired".

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you have answered nothing, i have provided three direct quotations from the
watchtower, tell the forum whether the writers are claiming to be inspired or not.

You believe that JW literature is not inspired like Bible. I know this, you've told me this numerous times. So we can conclude it's Galveston who has it wrong.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you have answered nothing, i have provided three direct quotations from the
watchtower, tell the forum whether the writers are claiming to be inspired or not.

galveston75 has been a JW for 40 years and he said the magazines were the same as the gospels in terms of "divine inspiration".

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]On the contrary as PK pointed out Galveston candidly answered all his question so

it may have escaped your notice but i was referring to the debate between fmf and glaveston, not pk and galveston. i thought by addressing my response to fmf this would be clear.

your caricature is a gross misrepresentation,

caricature- good word ro ...[text shortened]... i had to refer to ancient proverbs to make sure i was conducting myself correctly i would worry.[/b]

more nothingness, your references to logic and reason are laughable, as if the
supernatural is subject to the same principle which guide natural laws, the folly of the
materialist and let it be noted that your initial statement and caricature completely
contradicts what PK was saying , but hey, we wont make an issue out of it like him and
his sidekick FMF have done.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
You believe that JW literature is not inspired like Bible. I know this, you've told me this numerous times. So we can conclude it's Galveston who has it wrong.

No i don't think he has, now answer the questions, is the watchtower claiming
inspiration, that its writers are inspired.

For over a century, this subject has periodically been discussed in The Watchtower.
Christ’s brothers surely demonstrate their loving concern for our spiritual welfare by
publishing articles on this and other inspired counsel. Paying attention to these
reminders is one way to show that we are following our perfect Leader, Jesus Christ.

and

Hence, when we distribute Bible-based literature, we are telling what the tongue of
inspired holy men has already said.

The Bible says: “Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are
crushed in spirit he saves.” (Psalm 34:18) Without a doubt, all who are “broken at
heart” or “crushed in spirit” can find encouragement and a hope for the future in the
Bible. Jehovah’s Witnesses distribute Bible-based literature to help those in need to
benefit from that divinely inspired source of comfort.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
more nothingness, your references to logic and reason are laughable, as if the
supernatural is subject to the same principle which guide natural laws, the folly of the
materialist and let it be noted that your initial statement and caricature completely
contradicts what PK was saying , but hey, we wont make an issue out of it like him and
his sidekick FMF have done.

Sidekick? Is that a 'debating point' robbie? You come across as a bit "broken at heart” or “crushed in spirit” yourself sometimes. You know that?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No i don't think he has, now answer the questions.

For over a century, this subject has periodically been discussed in The Watchtower.
Christ’s brothers surely demonstrate their loving concern for our spiritual welfare by
publishing articles on this and other inspired counsel. Paying attention to these
reminders is one way to show that we are f ...[text shortened]... sed literature to help those in need to
benefit from that divinely inspired source of comfort.

So Galveston's correct and you are wrong?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
and this,

The Bible says: “Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are
crushed in spirit he saves.” (Psalm 34:18) Without a doubt, all who are “broken at
heart” or “crushed in spirit” can find encouragement and a hope for the future in the
Bible. Jehovah’s Witnesses distribute Bible-based literature to help those in need to
benefit from that divinely inspired source of comfort.

the logic seems to follow then that the j.w. church attracts crushed and broken people? yes?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So Galveston's correct and you are wrong?

It remains to be seen, will you please answer the question, are these quotations of
which i have provided three, three times, claiming inspiration for the writers of the
watchtower or are they not?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
It remains to be seen, will you please answer the question, are these quotations of
which i have provided three, three times, claiming inspiration fore the writers of the
watchtower or are they not?

You're dodging, robbie. 40 year JW veteran galveston75 has said your magazines are the same as the gospels in terms of "divine inspiration". He said the magazines were God directly communicating with humans. Is he wrong?