Originally posted by menace71Why don't you quote the prophesy, then show how the historical events bore out the prophesy.
Isa. 9 speaks of Christ his birth ect. I guess there maybe some counter argument as why this Prophecy is not valid. It's a good one though.
Manny
Keep in mind that the writers of the gospels were probably aware of the prophesy, and their testimony should be taken with some skepticism.
Originally posted by menace71Did you study geography in school? If you did, you should already know the answer - or you had a lousy teacher.
I'm wondering is there any scientific evidence supporting a world wide flood? How about these fossils or sea creatures found on high mountains? What is that all about?
Manny
Originally posted by PinkFloydevolution is not a miracle work dude. you cannot have zebras and donkeys and whatever evolve from 1 or 7 pairs of horses (i am assuming correct the "kinds" theory and 1or 7 relates to horses being clean or not)
I believe it is based on fact. That EVERY species of bears, lepidopterans, skinks, kraits, and microbes were present on the ark I find unlikely, but that's where evolution comes in. Like I said, Christian evolutions DO exist---I am living proof.
thanx to inbreeding you have high chances of recessive deadly genes occuring and then you have a faulty individual (most likely dead individual). the cheetah population is having that problem and they are quite a few cheetahs.
there is no way 7 pairs of horses could breed enough as to evolve into zebras and all horse related animals in time for the roman empire to stick them into gladiator shows.
also christians(the brainwashed christians) don't like evolution. they say no animal can turn into another animal. one of their argument is that if evolution happens, why haven't we seen it today? but with the noah ark they would have us believe that all the "kinds" gave birth to several other species in a matter of hundreds NOT thousands and certainly not millions of years as the evolutionists claim.
Originally posted by PinkFloydlike i said before, the bible places the flood at around 2250 BC. how come the egyptians before that are washed by the flood and how come another egyptian people comes to light right after it? the great pyramid was built before the flood, how come? and to quote the bible, how come there were enough people in about 100-200 years after the flood to build the tower of babel and it's surrounding city?
I believe it is based on fact. That EVERY species of bears, lepidopterans, skinks, kraits, and microbes were present on the ark I find unlikely, but that's where evolution comes in. Like I said, Christian evolutions DO exist---I am living proof.
from http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/post.php?threadid=122482&frompage=13&replytoid=2308923
Genealogies in Genesis put the Tower of Babel about 110 to 150 years after the Flood [Gen 10:25, 11:10-19]. How did the world population regrow so fast to make its construction (and the city around it) possible? Similarly, there would have been very few people around to build Stonehenge and the Pyramids, rebuild the Sumerian and Indus Valley civilizations, populate the Americas, etc.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou'll never understand that all animals on earth came from the ones on the ark unless you recognize that God was involved in making it happen. So by shutting God out of the picture the flood will never seem possible to you.
evolution is not a miracle work dude. you cannot have zebras and donkeys and whatever evolve from 1 or 7 pairs of horses (i am assuming correct the "kinds" theory and 1or 7 relates to horses being clean or not)
thanx to inbreeding you have high chances of recessive deadly genes occuring and then you have a faulty individual (most likely dead individual). ...[text shortened]... of hundreds NOT thousands and certainly not millions of years as the evolutionists claim.
Originally posted by galveston75Ice core samples?
You'll never understand that all animals on earth came from the ones on the ark unless you recognize that God was involved in making it happen. So by shutting God out of the picture the flood will never seem possible to you.
I see you haven't responded to my beautiul eloquent post.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut you have yet to address the problem of how all the animals and their food fitted on this boat for 150 days.
all living creatures designated by God, Noobster.
All you've done with regard to my calculations is say 'no that's wrong'.
Show me where and why please Rob.
Originally posted by menace71I'm wondering is there any scientific evidence supporting a world wide flood?
I'm wondering is there any scientific evidence supporting a world wide flood? How about these fossils or sea creatures found on high mountains? What is that all about?
Manny
None.
How about these fossils or sea creatures found on high mountains? What is that all about?
It's called plate-tectonics, the shifting of the Earths litosphere.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/geology/tectonics.html
I gave it some thought..............utter tosh!!!! That's my answer.
What evidence would you like to see in the ice cores?
Maybe a massive great layer of mud?! But there isn't one. Surprise, surprise.
I know you have rewrote the book already on evolutionary biology and paleontology, next stop, paleoclimatology.
Here's the deal, just like climate changes produce rings on trees the same happens with ice.
Throughout each year, layers of snow fall over the ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica. Each layer of snow is different in chemistry and texture, summer snow differing from winter snow. Summer brings 24 hours of sunlight to the polar regions, and the top layer of the snow changes in texture—not melting exactly, but changing enough to be different from the snow it covers. The season turns cold and dark again, and more snow falls, forming the next layers of snow. Each layer gives scientists a treasure trove of information about the climate each year. Like marine sediment cores, an ice core provides a vertical timeline of past climates stored in ice sheets and mountain glaciers.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/
Your theory that all the ice caps and glacial sheets formed after the supposed flood is merely theory, some ice cores in Antartica have been dated back 750,000yrs. So that's that one out the window.
So if there was a huge worldwide flood that was powerful enough to create mountain ranges and leave sedimentary layers in the soil as you blelieve. Why isn't there any evidence of this mud in the ice core samples?
Give that some thought before you answer....
Originally posted by Proper KnobLike I said, the reason there is no mud in it is because it formed after the flood. And how do they know that ice sample is 750,000 years old?
I gave it some thought..............utter tosh!!!! That's my answer.
What evidence would you like to see in the ice cores?
Maybe a massive great layer of mud?! But there isn't one. Surprise, surprise.
I know you have rewrote the book already on evolutionary biology and paleontology, next stop, paleoclimatology.
Here's the deal, just like ...[text shortened]... dence of this mud in the ice core samples?
Give that some thought before you answer....
Originally posted by galveston75Err, no it didn't. You're just plain wrong. If you think you aren't show me a link to a scientific paper or website that supports your view.
Like I said, the reason there is no mud in it is because it formed after the flood. And how do they know that ice sample is 750,000 years old?
And how do they know that ice sample is 750,000 years old?
Read the link and learn.