21 Jun 20
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-Removed-You obviously stopped reading once you decided I had committed the irredeemable sin of disagreeing with you.
Finish my post.
@suzianne said
I agree with you, however. All they needed to know was that God told them not to, and they chose to anyways.
You conveniently skipped this so you could 'commence with the beating'.
I said "the argument could be made". Not that I was making it.
21 Jun 20
@bigdoggproblem saidQuestions don't "tear the whole thing down".
Careful ... too many questions like that and you'll tear the whole thing down. 🙂
Even bad answers only begin to make a dent. In the end, it is bad attitude, combined with a pre-existing bias, that begin to crumble the edifice.
21 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidThe starting point for disobedience is Satan, the father of lies.
So, in your opinion, because of that decision to eat the fruit, all of future mankind was deemed sinners and thus required Jesus to be a sacrificial Savior?
In order to deem a Savior necessary, religion needed a starting point for disobedience, and whether one even believes Adam and Eve were real people, this 'story' seems to be sufficient for most.
This IS why we need "a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord".
21 Jun 20
@suzianne saidWhether it is inability or unwillingness to answer ~ I personally think it is inability ~ either way, your decision to make personal remarks rather than address my comments about the topic is part of the discourse.
So, you label my unwillingness to engage you in a conversation you believe has no merit, is simply "inability to answer".
21 Jun 20
@suzianne said"Cookies"? No. I don't think so. "Here for the cookies" is not banter I understand. I am "here" because of what chaney3 chose to make part of his topic/question, as mentioned in the OP and then where he reiterate it on page 2.
So, basically, you're only here for the cookies.
21 Jun 20
Christians are way too liberal about bible stories, and merely dismiss them at will.
If Adam and Eve is BS, then the requirement for Jesus is suspect.
When a parent warns a child about a hot stove, the child is clueless until the child touches the hot stove.
God warned Adam, but the warning had no reference. For those who are less intelligent, such as rookie and dive, Adam and Eve had no idea what sin was, and should be *blameless* for listening to the serpent.
21 Jun 20
@suzianne saidchaney3 said: "If one questions the origin of sin, or dismisses it as a metaphor, then the necessity for a Savior could also be questioned."
Apparently, your most important goal is gaslighting yourself as well as others. Well, bon appetite.
I think it's true.
On page 2 he asked this: "If one questions the validity of this particular story, then when does Jesus become necessary?"
I think it's a germaine question.
