21 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidI’m not dismissing anything, what are you on about?
So you dismiss the Bible at will, good to know.
21 Jun 20
@divegeester saidYour immaturity is glaring.
Have you yet decided if you are a Christian or not chaney3?
Being a "Christian" is meaningless in light of scripture.
You, dive, dismiss Bible verses at will when they disagree with your agenda.
21 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidAre you a Christian chaney3?
Being a "Christian" is meaningless in light of scripture.
21 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidNo, I don’t.
You, dive, dismiss Bible verses at will when they disagree with your agenda.
21 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidFollowing Jesus's teaching is not "meaningless", though. So I think it might make a good starting point for you as a Christian even if the Old Testament causes you confusion or doubt. If done conscientiously, following Jesus's teaching would not be "meaningless" in terms of your impact on those around you.
Being a "Christian" is meaningless in light of scripture.
22 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidNo.
Christians are way too liberal about bible stories, and merely dismiss them at will.
If Adam and Eve is BS, then the requirement for Jesus is suspect.
When a parent warns a child about a hot stove, the child is clueless until the child touches the hot stove.
God warned Adam, but the warning had no reference. For those who are less intelligent, such as rookie and dive, Adam and Eve had no idea what sin was, and should be *blameless* for listening to the serpent.
22 Jun 20
@caesar-salad saidWhy do you wonder that?
I wonder how many Christians try to put on the mindset of an Orthodox Jewish or Hasidic scholar when considering the nuances and facets of this story.
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@divegeester saidThank you for your seemingly mild-mannered question.
Why do you wonder that?
If you are sincerely interested, may I suggest the novels of Chaim Potok, or the publications of Artscroll Publishers, or Rami Shapiro's book about Hasidic Tales?
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@chaney3 said@chaney3: It's better to check with the One behind the scenes before making harsh accusations.
Your immaturity is glaring.
Being a "Christian" is meaningless in light of scripture.
You, dive, dismiss Bible verses at will when they disagree with your agenda.
We are not really in a position to know why some people turn out the way they do, while others in very much the same circumstances do not.
Or why some planetary cultures have the double-edged sword of scriptures, whereas the peeps of other planets just get along and groove to the rhythm of the Holy Now.
I think Dive might perhaps mean well [okay, there is some uncertainty about that], and is as much a truth-seeker as a crutch-kicker, but I still think crutch-kicking is cruel. He is also, as far as I know, English, and might have to get by in an English-flavored culture of cruelty.
So I almost give him a pass, but he also has his own choices to make, as we all do.
Sorry to talk about you in the third person like this, Dive, but I have no regrets about it. I'm sure you are overstocked with regrets to send my way. 😉
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22 Jun 20
@chaney3 saidAlso, someone who had flowered further than the rest would probably not speak so harshly.
Your immaturity is glaring.
Being a "Christian" is meaningless in light of scripture.
You, dive, dismiss Bible verses at will when they disagree with your agenda.
22 Jun 20
@caesar-salad saidJesus calls us all to be perfect, as His Father in heaven is perfect. My issue with dive has always been his willingness to be a mediocre Christian who's content with his flaws, and with no real desire to change.
Also, someone who had flowered further than the rest would probably not speak so harshly.