@Suzianne
Now calm down..Lol. We do pretty much have the same understanding of who Jesus is except for a couple things. But thanks for your time in posting your comment.
I'll answer you later today. Can't sleep right now, not feeling good. Will write soon...
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@galveston75 saidThe lack of understanding is all yours.
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Well sorry you don't understand and I'll leave it at that. Good day...
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@galveston75 saidSo saying that you have the same beliefs about Jesus except a couple of things kind of ignores one of those things being hugely different?
The bible clearly says over and over that his his Father created him............ Pretty clear to those who do no believe in the pagan teaching of the trinity which is not even once mentioned in the Bible.
@divegeester saidNothing different in my beliefs about Jesus. I believe exactly what the Bible says...
So saying that you have the same beliefs about Jesus except a couple of things kind of ignores one of those things being hugely different?
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@galveston75 saidHuh, you said similar to what Suzianne believed.
Nothing different in my beliefs about Jesus. I believe exactly what the Bible says...
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html#OldTes
"The New Catholic Encyclopedia says, “The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught [explicitly] in the [Old Testament]”, “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established [by a council]…prior to the end of the 4th century”. Similarly, Encyclopedia Encarta states: “The doctrine is not taught explicitly in the New Testament, where the word God almost invariably refers to the Father. […] The term trinitas was first used in the 2nd century, by the Latin theologian Tertullian, but the concept was developed in the course of the debates on the nature of Christ […]. In the 4th century, the doctrine was finally formulated.”[6] Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” (Deuteronomy 6:4). […] The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. […] by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”[7]"
https://www.cogwriter.com/trinity.htm
This is just a few of the links to follow about the history of the modern Trinity.
But it goes back ever farther:
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.php
https://discover.hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Beast-Religion-The-Origins-of-the-Trinity
https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/articles/pagan-roots-of-the-trinity-doctrine-ed-torrence-2002
https://www.ucg.org/learn/bible-study-tools/bible-study-aids/god-trinity/god-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods
@galveston75 saidNo. Maybe YOUR Bible, written to support YOUR beliefs says that.
The bible clearly says over and over that his his Father created him............ Pretty clear to those who do no believe in the pagan teaching of the trinity which is not even once mentioned in the Bible.
Protestant churches in America say that Jesus is "eternally begotten".
The phrase means that Jesus has always existed with and as God, and is as eternal as the Father. It describes the Son's co-eternal existence with the Father, and the Son's possession of the same divine essence as the Father.
We have to be careful to understand this term. It is often used as synonymous with “to be born” but it really means “to cause to be.” Even though the Son is eternally existent, the Father “causes him to be.” God is the cause of his own existence.
@Suzianne
And what is the bible you use? And have you ever taken the time to read all the non JW info I've posted like where the ((((((((( trinity originated?)))))))) No Christians ever started to slightly believe the trinity until about 250+ years after the last of the apostles died off. It took about that long for the Christians to slowly let false teachings infiltrate them just as foretold would happen. Are you aware of those warnings?
"God is the cause of his own existence." Really? Could you show me the scripture that says this?