Pagan basis of the trinity.

Originally posted by divegeester
If I agree with you will you please blow smoke up my ass too?

What BB is saying aligns with your cult doctrine. If BB disagreed with you he'd soon be relegated to the "lol" division you and Galv resort to when confronted by argument.

beetle provided reference and reason, you may make reference to those if you have anything to say on the matter.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
beetle provided reference and reason, you may make reference to those if you have anything to say on the matter as for the tabloid nature of your text, i dont care for it to be honest.

Many here who disagree with you (including myself) provide reference and reason but you never acknowledge it.

Originally posted by divegeester
Many here who disagree with you (including myself) provide reference and reason but you never acknowledge it.

Instead of the now obligatory ad hominen, here is your chance to demonstrate why you disagree with beetles text, he is not a Christian is he? he has no axe to grind has he? he is not a member of any particular denomination, is he? Go a head then, if your are really interested in reference and reason, as you now claim. For i personally do not think that you are, for if you were, you would have made reference to at least one of beetles points by now.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Instead of the now obligatory ad hominen, here is your chance to demonstrate why you disagree with beetles text, he is not a Christian is he? he has no axe to grind has he? he is not a member of any particular denomination, is he? Go a head then, if your are really interested in reference and reason, as you now claim. For i personally do not thin ...[text shortened]... ou are, for if you were, you would have made reference to at least one of beetles points by now.

Don't try to deflect. I agree with BB superficially; and if you bothered to read my posts you would know I'm not a trinitarian.

I'm just amused by your repeated sycophancy with those more respected users who by chance, happen to agree with your position.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am a Christian, i am under duress to show love to all persons, even enemies like you.

I am sorry that you see me as an enemy, but it is the Jehovah's Witnesses
that have indoctrinated you with their false teaching and you can't see that
it is I that is telling the truth from the scriptures. Why would I bother with
showing you the truth if I were really an enemy, as you say? And why
should you consider a person you have never met an enemy. I have done
no harm to you. My words are simply an expression of tough love to
a fellow human being, who is in dire need of it. Don't let the Jehovah's
Witnesses take away your prize, as Paul puts it.

Originally posted by divegeester
Don't try to deflect. I agree with BB superficially; and if you bothered to read my posts you would know I'm not a trinitarian.

I'm just amused by your repeated sycophancy with those more respected users who by chance, happen to agree with your position.

again you may make reference to any of beetles points, superficially if you like.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am sorry that you see me as an enemy, but it is the Jehovah's Witnesses
that have indoctrinated you with their false teaching and you can't see that
it is I that is telling the truth from the scriptures. Why would I bother with
showing you the truth if I were really an enemy, as you say? And why
should you consider a person you have never met an enem ...[text shortened]... dire need of it. Don't let the Jehovah's
Witnesses take away your prize, as Paul puts it.

thanks but i choose life

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am sorry that you see me as an enemy...

The "enemy" in the Christian mind-set is Satan.

This is classic cult attitude driving this behaviour; anyone who does not agree is seen as being the "enemy". Something to be either avoided or scoffed at. And yet whilst we are all flawed, we all profess Christ which should be the binding denominator, however JW's like other cults believe they hold ALL truth.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again you may make reference to any of beetles points, superficially if you like.

I think I made the point I wanted to.

Originally posted by divegeester
I think I made the point I wanted to.

yes with the exception of course there is one glaring omittance, you haven't actually made reference to any of beetles points, strange for someone who is apparently interested in reference and reason. How are we to explain it?

Originally posted by divegeester
The "enemy" in the Christian mind-set is Satan.

This is classic cult attitude driving this behaviour; anyone who does not agree is seen as being the "enemy". Something to be either avoided or scoffed at. And yet whilst we are all flawed, we all profess Christ which should be the binding denominator, however JW's like other cults believe they hold ALL truth.

(Matthew 12:30)  He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather
with me scatters.

It seems to me that those who are not actively engaged in gathering with Christ are his
enemies, or is this scripture saying something other than the obvious.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
(Matthew 12:30)  He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather
with me scatters.

It seems to me that those who are not actively engaged in gathering with Christ are his
enemies, or is this scripture saying something other than the obvious.

So this is your justification for calling another Christian "the enemy" is it. This is exactly my point; your interpretation of this scripture is that the if someone is not in the JW organisation then they are not "gathering" with Christ. Can't you see how cultish that is?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes with the exception of course there is one glaring omittance, you haven't actually made reference to any of beetles points, strange for someone who is apparently interested in reference and reason. How are we to explain it?

I didn't need to reference BB to call you a sycophant.

Originally posted by divegeester
So this is your justification for calling another Christian "the enemy" is it. This is exactly my point; your interpretation of this scripture is that the if someone is not in the JW organisation then they are not "gathering" with Christ. Can't you see how cultish that is?

the scripture mentions nothing of Jehovahs witness organisation, not as far as i can discern, perhaps you would like to point out where it does.

Originally posted by divegeester
I didn't need to reference BB to call you a sycophant.

whatever, the text remains should you be interested in discussing any of the references or reasons