Permanent Members of Christ's Royal Family

Originally posted by KellyJay
Just so you know, I don't care what you or I believe about God, none of that matters.

You seem to care very much indeed about what I believe and what I believed. It seems a bit odd for you to suddenly say ~ on page 28 ~ that you "don't care".

Originally posted by KellyJay
It only matters that you were right with God through Jesus Christ.

I was "right with God through Jesus Christ" when I was a Christian. You're a Christian: are you "right with God through Jesus Christ"?

Originally posted by KellyJay
We are typing to fast, I answered this in another post.

No you didn't. In 1994, as we have established, I was more or less a Christian like you ~ though not identical ~ and my change of beliefs was some way off yet. Assuming his beliefs were more or less like yours, you would have embraced FMF-1994 as a fellow Christian,right?

Originally posted by FMF
You seem to care very much indeed about what I believe and what I believed. It seems a bit odd for you to suddenly say ~ on page 28 ~ that you "don't care".

I've been pointing out what you have said about your beliefs.
You as I pointed have changed your stance, calling one real and another
false. That has been the focus on what you are saying, I've not addressed
any specific point on what is good or bad, only about what you have said
about them.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
Then we can say, for the sake of argument, that we more or less had the same belief about "salvation" and Jesus, albeit at different times in our lives.

Originally posted by KellyJay
no
Kelly

But you just agreed with me when I said that I believed that salvation was only possible through a relationship with Jesus. I asked you if you agreed and you said you believed that too. So what's with the "no" now?

Originally posted by FMF
No you didn't. In 1994, as we have established, I was more or less a Christian like you ~ though not identical ~ and my change of beliefs was some way off yet. Assuming his beliefs were more or less like yours, you would have embraced FMF-1994 as a fellow Christian,right?

In 1994 you denied what you had was real not me, you.
So saying that we had something we may agree on means we had the same
type of thing, no. What happen to my life wasn't based upon something that
could be cast away as false or wrong! What ever you had in 1994 according
to you had to be cast away.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I've been pointing out what you have said about your beliefs.
You as I pointed have changed your stance, calling one real and another
false. That has been the focus on what you are saying, I've not addressed
any specific point on what is good or bad, only about what you have said
about them.
Kelly

Would you have embraced me as a fellow Christian ~ one with more or less the same beliefs as you regarding salvation being achievable through a relationship with Christ ~ in 1994?

Originally posted by FMF
But you just agreed with me when I said that I believed that salvation was only possible through a relationship with Jesus. I asked you if you agreed and you said you believed that too. So what's with the "no" now?

I agreed it is only through Jesus Christ, but you never had that since you
later denied it as real.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
In 1994 you denied what you had was real not me, you.

No. I did not deny anything in 1994. I was half a decade away from losing my faith. I was a straight ahead doubt-free Christian in 1994 and I held more or less the same beliefs as you.

Originally posted by FMF
Would you have embraced me as a fellow Christian ~ one with more or less the same beliefs as you regarding salvation being achievable through a relationship with Christ ~ in 1994?

Anyone who claims Jesus Christ, I'll accept. I may disagree with several
things in their lives; however, I'm not Jesus Christ so I'm not their Lord and
the one they are serving. Regardless what is going on in their lives I know
that Jesus died for them, so they are that important.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I agreed it is only through Jesus Christ, but you never had that since you
later denied it as real.
Kelly

I "had it" in 1994. I don't have it now. We are talking about me when I was a Christian. We are not talking about the me as the ex-Christian.

Originally posted by FMF
No. I did not deny anything in 1994. I was half a decade away from losing my faith. I was a straight ahead doubt-free Christian in 1994 and I held more or less the same beliefs as you.

So you acknowledge Jesus Christ now?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Anyone who claims Jesus Christ, I'll accept. I may disagree with several
things in their lives; however, I'm not Jesus Christ so I'm not their Lord and
the one they are serving. Regardless what is going on in their lives I know
that Jesus died for them, so they are that important.
Kelly

So is that a YES, you WOULD have embraced me as a fellow Christian in 1994?

Originally posted by FMF
I "had it" in 1994. I don't have it now. We are talking about me when I was a Christian. We are not talking about the me as the ex-Christian.

We are talking about you! I'm not dividing you into two periods of your
life.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
So is that a YES, you WOULD have embraced me as a fellow Christian in 1994?

🙂 Yep
Kelly