23 Nov 06
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomThe theory of evolution states that:
prove it.
1. All life forms (species) have developed from other species.
2. .....
http://www.evolutionhappens.net/
(more sources are possible however not many places state what the ToE says as it's assumed most people know)
Therefore when you stated that the Theory of Evolution states that we may have evolved from earlier life forms you were in fact wrong.
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomEV, this is the classic layman's misunderstanding of the notion of a scientific theory.
what the Evolution theory states, is that it is POSSIBLE not that it is FACT. the same goes with the creation theory.
Theory in science IS fact.
Theory in science doesn't mean something that is possible, or something that might be true.
When a scientific model is called a Theory it's because it has the weight of evidence to consider it a fact.
Creationism might also be considered a theory I guess, but that's irrelevant anyway since it isn't scientific.
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by amannionit is possible, but i thought thats all it was; possible, not necessarily true.
EV, this is the classic layman's misunderstanding of the notion of a scientific theory.
Theory in science IS fact.
Theory in science doesn't mean something that is possible, or something that might be true.
When a scientific model is called a Theory it's because it has the weight of evidence to consider it a fact.
Creationism might also be considered a theory I guess, but that's irrelevant anyway since it isn't scientific.
26 Nov 06
Originally posted by snowinscotlandNo, of course not. Only an idiot would think such a thing. To believe that, one would have to believe that all propostions are equally likely to be true or false, since all propositions are either true or false.
is that really true - that evolution is a 50/50 chance of being true?
26 Nov 06
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesyeah but if it can either be true or false - it is a 50/50 bet isn't it....?
No, of course not. Only an idiot would think such a thing. To believe that, one would have to believe that all propostions are equally likely to be true or false, since all propositions are either true or false.
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26 Nov 06
Originally posted by snowinscotlandomg, read the rest of the posts. it can be 60/40, 30/70 not always 50/50. thats what we discussed for 7 pages, if its going to be 7 more pages count me out.
yeah but if it can either be true or false - it is a 50/50 bet isn't it....?
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26 Nov 06
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomBy discussed do you mean you insisted it was 50/50 and everyone else told you you were wrong and laughed in your face? Because that's what I read.
omg, read the rest of the posts. it can be 60/40, 30/70 not always 50/50. thats what we discussed for 7 pages, if its going to be 7 more pages count me out.
26 Nov 06
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomWhat is your definition of theist? If I am a christian, and the jewish god, the muslim god, the roman gods, or any other god is the true god, then I will be punished. In case you haven't noticed, there are quite a few religions out there that believe they will be saved by their god, while everyone else will be punished. So it seems to me that if you are a theist, you stand an equal chance of being punished by someone else's god as an athiest has of being punished by yours.
1. you are a theist, and you are right and you worshipped ect. and go to heaven or w/e benifits you are offered for worshipping God.
2. you are a theist and God doesn't exist, so nothing happens.
3. you are an atheist and God exists so you are punished.
4. you are an atheist and God doesnt exist so nothing happens.
so if you are a theist you hav ...[text shortened]... theist wrong, and a theist has a 1/2 chance of proving an atheist wrong so it is 50%/50%.
26 Nov 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZwell i tried to prove it was 50/50 and i gave up. i understand the concept of probability i just really thought that it is 50/50.
By discussed do you mean you insisted it was 50/50 and everyone else told you you were wrong and laughed in your face? Because that's what I read.
26 Nov 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZi bet youre laughed at in real life, so you try to act cool on the internet; im cooler than you are trust me.
By discussed do you mean you insisted it was 50/50 and everyone else told you you were wrong and laughed in your face? Because that's what I read.