Respect for the Spiritual Path of others

@thinkofone said
Jesus' Words either mean what they say or not! To change them to our liking that voids any real meaning of His Word.

This is exactly what you do. You delude yourself into believing that Jesus didn't say what He explicitly states and did say what He never said. You do so because you're so self-serving that you believe that you're entitled to have God serve you instead of the other way around. Even worse, you wrap it in false humility.

Show me something I have claimed that Jesus has said that He didn't!
Show me something I have claimed that Jesus did say that I deny!

You avoid many things/questions that are put to you, finding ways to run and hide all the while judging others for this.

@kellyjay said
Professing our works get us to God ignoring God's grace, and refusing to acknowledge Jesus' Words that say if we deny Him before man, He will deny us before the Father. That interpretation does away the truth of scripture as it is to make it fit into a works doctrine of earning our way to God by doing enough good works.

Our grasp of scripture is not trying to make it fit ...[text shortened]... ne with God's truth. The scripture must line up with all other scripture, not just the ones we like.

Jesus is the way the truth and the life, and yet you continue to quote your church nonsense, which Jesus never said and you ignore what Jesus did say.

Jesus said to follow His commandments and to do good works and you will have eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Your doctrine of Satan preaches the opposite, and encourages people to do no good works, the opposite of what Jesus preached. You are a disgusting Satanic hypocritical mouth worshiper.

@rajk999 said
Jesus is the way the truth and the life, and yet you continue to quote your church nonsense, which Jesus never said and you ignore what Jesus did say.

Jesus said to follow His commandments and to do good works and you will have eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Your doctrine of Satan preaches the opposite, and encourages people to do no good works, the opposite of what Jesus preached. You are a disgusting Satanic hypocritical mouth worshiper.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Your lies are getting old, what church do I belong to whose doctrine I am spouting? You have no idea, so your claims of church doctrine are only found in your evil imagination. I'm not the one suggesting Jesus did not mean what He says, that is you. I've never denied Jesus wants us to do good works, but do deny we are going to be saved by the works we do. We are saved by the blood of our savior, who has redeemed us, and it is due to Him alone we are made right with God. He is our savior, and you would turn Him into an auditor of human effort looking for those that put out the right amount of effort to be saved denying the blood shed by Christ for us; you have another Jesus not the One in scripture.

@kellyjay said
Show me something I have claimed that Jesus has said that He didn't!
Show me something I have claimed that Jesus did say that I deny!

You avoid many things/questions that are put to you, finding ways to run and hide all the while judging others for this.

You've repeatedly shown that you don't believe what Jesus explicitly states in the following:
John 8
34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. 35“The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever.
31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

You've repeatedly shown that you read things into the following that Jesus never says:
John 14
6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

@thinkofone said
You've repeatedly shown that you don't believe what Jesus explicitly states in the following:
John 8
34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. 35“The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever.
31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then y ...[text shortened]... said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

You are repeating accusations but not producing quotes, also you don't have clue what you are talking about with respect to scriptures. Which is why when questioned you refuse to attempt to back things up you are making claims about, or show how you view the truth of all scripture.

@kellyjay said
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Your lies are getting old, what church do I belong to whose doctrine I am spouting? You have no idea, so your claims of church doctrine are only found in your evil imagination. I'm not the one suggesting Jesus did not mean what He says, that is you. I've ...[text shortened]... o be saved denying the blood shed by Christ for us; you have another Jesus not the One in scripture.

Saved and Eternal Life are two different things.
Im talking about eternal life
You continue to talk about saved.

I never talk about saved because Jesus saved all of mankind by his death and resurrection. That is done. It is past. All of mankind is saved.

The question is how does one benefit from this death and resurrection of Christ?

The answer is good works and righteousness. Your church doctrine says just profess your faith. Its a nonsense doctrine that Jesus condemned.

@rajk999 said
Saved and Eternal Life are two different things.
Im talking about eternal life
You continue to talk about saved.

I never talk about saved because Jesus saved all of mankind by his death and resurrection. That is done. It is past. All of mankind is saved.

The question is how does one benefit from this death and resurrection of Christ?

The answer is good works and r ...[text shortened]... . Your church doctrine says just profess your faith. Its a nonsense doctrine that Jesus condemned.

Yea, saved and eternal life are two different things, but only those saved get eternal life.

What church do I go to?

@rajk999 said
Saved and Eternal Life are two different things.
Im talking about eternal life
You continue to talk about saved.

I never talk about saved because Jesus saved all of mankind by his death and resurrection. That is done. It is past. All of mankind is saved.

The question is how does one benefit from this death and resurrection of Christ?

The answer is good works and r ...[text shortened]... . Your church doctrine says just profess your faith. Its a nonsense doctrine that Jesus condemned.

All of mankind can be saved, but not all of mankind will be.

What church do I go to?

@kellyjay said
You are repeating accusations but not producing quotes, also you don't have clue what you are talking about with respect to scriptures. Which is why when questioned you refuse to attempt to back things up you are making claims about, or show how you view the truth of all scripture.

Why are you pretending like you haven't done exactly what I said?

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Your lies are getting old, what church do I belong to whose doctrine I am spouting? You have no idea, so your claims of church doctrine are only found in your evil imagination. I'm not the one suggesting Jesus did not mean what He says, that is you. I've never denied Jesus wants us to do good works, but do deny we are going to be saved by the works we do. We are saved by the blood of our savior, who has redeemed us, and it is due to Him alone we are made right with God. He is our savior, and you would turn Him into an auditor of human effort looking for those that put out the right amount of effort to be saved denying the blood shed by Christ for us; you have another Jesus not the One in scripture.

You avoid many things/questions that are put to you, finding ways to run and hide all the while judging others for this.

This is a lie. I address on-topic posts / questions probably more than anyone else on this forum including you. What I don't address are off-topic posts / questions. No matter how often you repeat your lie, it won't make it true.

@thinkofone said
Why are you pretending like you haven't done exactly what I said?

[quote]John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Your lies are getting old, what church do I belong to whose doctrine I am spouting? You have no idea, so your claims of church doctrine are only found in your evil imaginati ...[text shortened]... ess are off-topic posts / questions. No matter how often you repeat your lie, it won't make it true.

You cannot be that dense, if someone brings a question to you about anything it has become a topic, and you have avoided specific questions to you for years.

@kellyjay said
You cannot be that dense

The irony

@kellyjay said
All of mankind can be saved, but not all of mankind will be.

What church do I go to?

Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world not just for Christians who profess faith. In the end what matters is good works and righteousness Jesus said that in Matt 25. I know you dont believe Christ but I do.

You attend the SCM. [Satanic Church of Mouth-worshipers]

@thinkofone said
Why are you pretending like you haven't done exactly what I said?

[quote]John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Your lies are getting old, what church do I belong to whose doctrine I am spouting? You have no idea, so your claims of church doctrine are only found in your evil imaginati ...[text shortened]... ess are off-topic posts / questions. No matter how often you repeat your lie, it won't make it true.

More than one person can testify to the duplicity concerning how you are known for not answering questions after asking many. It is the one defining trait you are known for by many. You get this from so many people, many of whom practically never agree with each other, but when it comes to you dodging questions, agreement.

@rajk999 said
Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world not just for Christians who profess faith. In the end what matters is good works and righteousness Jesus said that in Matt 25. I know you dont believe Christ but I do.

You attend the SCM. [Satanic Church of Mouth-worshipers]

Your evil imagination is on full display.

You have to reject so much of the Bible to say the things you profess are true.

Jesus said, "For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

So what happens to those that do not look on the Son? What happens to those that do not do what Jesus says? If they do not believe in Jesus when He restricts what he is saying to those that look to Him, and believe in Him, what then? Jesus, when speaking of the serpent was referring to a time God gave an out to those that were dying by snake bites, look on the staff Moses made and they lived. God gives us Jesus to look to, and like the snake bites in Moses' time those that did not look at the staff died, and those that do not look to the Son of God whom the Father gave will also die and in their sins. Jesus came to save the world of sins, but not everyone wants it, or think they require it they have something else, like in the doctrine of work or self-righteousness.

John 3
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

John 6
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

@chaney3 said
The OP message should have been given by someone NOT invested in Christianity, because it's ultimately suggesting that finding an alternative to Jesus and/or God is fine.

In essence, it's Suzianne's OP.

Young man, you are so confused.

Try meditation. It may help sort out your brain.